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Rob Wiblin

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2592 total appearances

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80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

Because they say this is their plan, but they don't really have any...

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

quantitative claims about like at that stage, what fraction of their AI labor or their human labor for that matter is going to go towards the safety versus the further acceleration.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

And they'll be facing tremendous pressure at that point from their competitors to stay ahead.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

My guess is that unless they have much more robust commitments than they have right now, they probably just won't be directing that much of their AI labor.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

If they have 100,000 really smart human equivalents, maybe only 100 of them are working on AI safety, which is maybe still more than they had before in human labor, but not that much compared to how quickly things are going.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

Yeah, I mean, I think that particular contract is probably going to run into big antitrust issues.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

Yeah, I think that's a possibility.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

I do think it's a bit tough.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

This is not the kind of thing it's super easy to make laws about because it's really not a box checking exercise.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

When you write the legislation that half the compute must be spent on safety rather than capabilities,

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

Like, what do you count as safety research?

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

And like, how are you enforcing this?

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

Like, do you have like auditors in there being like, what are you working on?

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

What are you working on to like all the team leads in the companies and like, you know, checking off that they have that it's 50% safety.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

I can imagine stuff like that.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

I think it would require like extremely technically deep regulators that like we just don't really have right now, I think.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

Yeah, I think that's a possibility.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

I don't think it's the most likely way it fails.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

On my views, I think the most likely way it fails is that they don't go super hard on it.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

But I think it's also plausible that they're just trying to get the AIs to help with alignment and the AIs are just like,