Rob Wiblin

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5,091 appearances 15 recordings 1 series first heard Oct 2021 last heard 6 Aug

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80,000 Hours Podcast · #250 – Toby Ord on where AGI timelines go wrong · 6 Aug 2026 podcast

I guess many, many different senior people in AI at different companies have said that they think this is not a great path to go down.

And as far as I know, there's like no company that has like gone very far down that path.

So there would be no one who'd be super disadvantaged if they all could come to the table and say, we're gonna like set that one aside for now because the risk reward is just like, this is probably the worst risk reward of any of the options that we have available.

So it'll be an interesting step that we could take towards beginning to limit what research practices we permit.

You might require whistleblower rules, I guess.

Yeah, I feel like I'd really love us to urgently codify this because I worry that you could have some kind of rogue researcher who I guess isn't worried about any of this and just pushes ahead.

And once you know the technique is there, once it's so easy to implement, then I guess one actor might do it.

And then they're like, well, I'm taking a relative disadvantage if we now agree this.

That is indeed what they'll all be saying.

Basically, nobody wants to.

Yeah.

You're so idealistic, Toby.

I feel like this kind of idealism is...

rare in AI discourse at the moment, or the idea that, well, we could just like, for like moral reasons, not do stuff.

I don't know, but there's this like, I guess, analytical frame that you'll get into where it's like, well, everyone is going to just follow their incentives, do that.

Yeah.

And they celebrate this?

It's like unimaginable in a children's book today.

A lot of prominent people in the AI world think that AGI is coming very soon, like in coming years.

I know that you think things could take significantly longer.

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