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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. But, I mean, look up what else he wrote. He wrote, like, he's a great comedy writer.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. But, I mean, look up what else he wrote. He wrote, like, he's a great comedy writer.

Glad to meet you. How are you doing? Good, good thanks. Enjoy your podcast.

Glad to meet you. How are you doing? Good, good thanks. Enjoy your podcast.

The big events are three-day retreats, and we'll go in with maybe 25 volunteers. to an audience of 35 to 45 residents and basically lead discussions on a pretty wide range of topics and get them involved. A lot of it is based on personal experience in whatever the talk may deal with. Some is forgiving yourself, forgiving others.

The big events are three-day retreats, and we'll go in with maybe 25 volunteers. to an audience of 35 to 45 residents and basically lead discussions on a pretty wide range of topics and get them involved. A lot of it is based on personal experience in whatever the talk may deal with. Some is forgiving yourself, forgiving others.

I know there's fights. I know there's, you know, sometimes there's a lockdown because of a fight that prevents us from going in. But it's not a bunch of hoodlums that are looking to do damage to anybody and everybody. And that I'd say would be the biggest misconception that people would fear that it's that. I mean, they're human beings and unbelievably candid.

I know there's fights. I know there's, you know, sometimes there's a lockdown because of a fight that prevents us from going in. But it's not a bunch of hoodlums that are looking to do damage to anybody and everybody. And that I'd say would be the biggest misconception that people would fear that it's that. I mean, they're human beings and unbelievably candid.

As you've stated, you look in a public prison. These are not great spaces. Right. And for a private company to come in and say, we're going to do this in a way that's cheaper than the public can do it. Right. Because that's the only way it makes sense as a private business is they have to be able to create some profit margin. So like they're going to have to be able to create profit.

As you've stated, you look in a public prison. These are not great spaces. Right. And for a private company to come in and say, we're going to do this in a way that's cheaper than the public can do it. Right. Because that's the only way it makes sense as a private business is they have to be able to create some profit margin. So like they're going to have to be able to create profit.

a system that runs more cheaply than what's already a very, very bare bones system. You know, so they have to figure out some way to do that. And it's hard to imagine them being able to create better physical spaces when they have this financial necessity to create a profit margin on already, you know, something that's run at a razor thin margin level.

a system that runs more cheaply than what's already a very, very bare bones system. You know, so they have to figure out some way to do that. And it's hard to imagine them being able to create better physical spaces when they have this financial necessity to create a profit margin on already, you know, something that's run at a razor thin margin level.

We're not taking the position that government has to operate everything, right? There's clearly some spaces where there's opportunities for private companies to be more flexible and change things around very quickly and innovate and all of that stuff. We have no problem when private companies are getting contracts to build roads or things of this nature.

We're not taking the position that government has to operate everything, right? There's clearly some spaces where there's opportunities for private companies to be more flexible and change things around very quickly and innovate and all of that stuff. We have no problem when private companies are getting contracts to build roads or things of this nature.

The real fundamental problem here is when a person's liberty is at stake, There's sort of two reasons, two different avenues to think about it. One is sort of like a moral philosophical position is that like when it comes to taking away someone's liberty, only the government sort of has the moral authority to do that.

The real fundamental problem here is when a person's liberty is at stake, There's sort of two reasons, two different avenues to think about it. One is sort of like a moral philosophical position is that like when it comes to taking away someone's liberty, only the government sort of has the moral authority to do that.

And, you know, a private company having just the ability to profit off the fact that somebody else is incarcerated, it just has this like philosophical problem.

And, you know, a private company having just the ability to profit off the fact that somebody else is incarcerated, it just has this like philosophical problem.

There's also a functional problem, which is that when the corporations have a financial interest in keeping their beds full, and every person that's in there, they're making more money, they have this financial interest to work in the legislative space and the advocacy space against sort of common sense policies. criminal justice reform.

There's also a functional problem, which is that when the corporations have a financial interest in keeping their beds full, and every person that's in there, they're making more money, they have this financial interest to work in the legislative space and the advocacy space against sort of common sense policies. criminal justice reform.