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And Vicenza, if you're driving in Italy from Milan to Venice, you could have passed Verona. And there's one little turnoff to Vicenza, which no one notices. You go straight on to Venice. I own Vicenza Culture, Vicenza Football Club. And the only piece of silver where they ever won was a month after I bought it. They won the Italian Cup, beating Napoli 1-0.

But now, today, every restaurant I go to in London, Italian restaurant, they go, Mr. Presidente.

But now, today, every restaurant I go to in London, Italian restaurant, they go, Mr. Presidente.

But a final quick thing. So I've done lots of entrepreneurial things, investors. And after 31 years of living in America, Europe, and mainly the UK, I decided to go back to South Africa in 2017. I read that now 31 years of, why did you go back? And people are going the other way. They're leaving in droves. Yeah. There's brain drain. That's taking place over there. Yeah.

But a final quick thing. So I've done lots of entrepreneurial things, investors. And after 31 years of living in America, Europe, and mainly the UK, I decided to go back to South Africa in 2017. I read that now 31 years of, why did you go back? And people are going the other way. They're leaving in droves. Yeah. There's brain drain. That's taking place over there. Yeah.

I went back because I looked at my wife in the eyes and said, my parents are still alive. My father's 99 this year. Mother, 91. Wow. Our name is still reasonably well known in South Africa, being industrial family. And I want to go home. I'm homesick. But we'll only go home for two to three years because Jacob Zuma, the president at the time, is destroying the country.

I went back because I looked at my wife in the eyes and said, my parents are still alive. My father's 99 this year. Mother, 91. Wow. Our name is still reasonably well known in South Africa, being industrial family. And I want to go home. I'm homesick. But we'll only go home for two to three years because Jacob Zuma, the president at the time, is destroying the country.

Let's go back, show our kids, see South Africa, and then leave. And what I'm not going to do is get involved in politics or invest in anything in South Africa that has any long-term horizon or involves the government. That makes a lot of sense.

Let's go back, show our kids, see South Africa, and then leave. And what I'm not going to do is get involved in politics or invest in anything in South Africa that has any long-term horizon or involves the government. That makes a lot of sense.

So I'll give you a quick potted history. In 1994, apartheid ended, and the country and government was handed over peacefully to the majority. the black majority. And for 12, 14 years, South Africa was actually a success story. It was the miracle democracy, the miracle story. The West said, we've won. We've saved South Africa. There's democracy. And the country grew at 3%, 4%, 5% a year.

So I'll give you a quick potted history. In 1994, apartheid ended, and the country and government was handed over peacefully to the majority. the black majority. And for 12, 14 years, South Africa was actually a success story. It was the miracle democracy, the miracle story. The West said, we've won. We've saved South Africa. There's democracy. And the country grew at 3%, 4%, 5% a year.

There was meritocracy. There were black, white, colored Indian people in all the jobs. And everything was going well. In 2008, the rot began. So there was Mandela, Mbeki, And then President Jacob Zuma, complete gangster, rogue, villain. He's a gangster, Jacob Zuma? He's the gangster. And he instituted a thing called state capture.

There was meritocracy. There were black, white, colored Indian people in all the jobs. And everything was going well. In 2008, the rot began. So there was Mandela, Mbeki, And then President Jacob Zuma, complete gangster, rogue, villain. He's a gangster, Jacob Zuma? He's the gangster. And he instituted a thing called state capture.

All our state-owned enterprises, railways, electricity supply, South African Airways, he put loyalists in place whose only job was to steal. and hundreds of billions of rand were stolen and offshored. And that was when the country began its descent into potential economic collapse. This is in 08? This is 08-09 till 2017.

All our state-owned enterprises, railways, electricity supply, South African Airways, he put loyalists in place whose only job was to steal. and hundreds of billions of rand were stolen and offshored. And that was when the country began its descent into potential economic collapse. This is in 08? This is 08-09 till 2017.

And they remove all the middle-class people small town, big city employees who for decades have been handling maintenance of the local sewage plant. You know, all those jobs that the smaller people in smaller jobs do day to day to keep the economy going. And they put ANC, their government, loyalists in place who had no competence and who ended up stealing and breaking.

And they remove all the middle-class people small town, big city employees who for decades have been handling maintenance of the local sewage plant. You know, all those jobs that the smaller people in smaller jobs do day to day to keep the economy going. And they put ANC, their government, loyalists in place who had no competence and who ended up stealing and breaking.

Every one of our state-owned enterprises either bankrupt or stolen to death as of today. But in 2017, the ANC elected a new president because they had over 50% of the votes, President Cyril Ramaphosa, who everyone believed would save the country. He's been just as bad as Zuma. And he arrives tomorrow to meet President Donald Trump. He arrives tomorrow to meet President Donald Trump. Ramaphosa.

Every one of our state-owned enterprises either bankrupt or stolen to death as of today. But in 2017, the ANC elected a new president because they had over 50% of the votes, President Cyril Ramaphosa, who everyone believed would save the country. He's been just as bad as Zuma. And he arrives tomorrow to meet President Donald Trump. He arrives tomorrow to meet President Donald Trump. Ramaphosa.

Yeah, he said he was negotiating with the president. So tomorrow might, if it's recorded, tomorrow might be in the past. That's right. Yeah. So now how do you feel about him versus Jacob Zuma? Jacob Zuma was fundamentally evil and malevolent. He's like a populist, clown, dangerous. And he's trying to come back into power and he'll be way, way, way more dangerous if he does.