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Robert Brokamp

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Tax-Smart Retirement Planning and the Long-Term Return of Gold

Next up, choosing the right retirement account when Motley Fool Money continues.

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Tax-Smart Retirement Planning and the Long-Term Return of Gold

Before you start stocking away money for retirement, you'll need to pick an account type, but choose wisely because it'll shape your tax bill today and potentially decades from now.

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Tax-Smart Retirement Planning and the Long-Term Return of Gold

Here to discuss how to choose the right account is financial planner and CPA, Sean Mulaney, who writes the FI Tax Guy blog and is the co-author, along with Cody Garrett, of the book, Tax Planning To and Through Early Retirement.

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Tax-Smart Retirement Planning and the Long-Term Return of Gold

Sean, welcome to Motley Fool Money.

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Tax-Smart Retirement Planning and the Long-Term Return of Gold

Robert, thanks so much for having me.

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Tax-Smart Retirement Planning and the Long-Term Return of Gold

So the title of your book highlights early retirement.

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Tax-Smart Retirement Planning and the Long-Term Return of Gold

So in your mind, what makes someone an early retiree and what, if anything, should they be doing differently?

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Tax-Smart Retirement Planning and the Long-Term Return of Gold

These days, we read a lot about the benefits of Roth accounts, which result in higher taxes today, but qualified withdrawals are tax-free in retirement.

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Tax-Smart Retirement Planning and the Long-Term Return of Gold

However, in your book, you make the case that many workers really should first turn to that pre-tax traditional work-based retirement account.

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Tax-Smart Retirement Planning and the Long-Term Return of Gold

You have some great illustrations in the book of how folks who are retired, particularly over age 65, because they get the higher standard deduction, they got the new senior deduction from the one big beautiful bill, how you could have a surprisingly high amount of income and pay a surprisingly low tax rate.

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Tax-Smart Retirement Planning and the Long-Term Return of Gold

You have particular illustrations of couples who are making, say, $250,000.

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Tax-Smart Retirement Planning and the Long-Term Return of Gold

And that puts them in, while they're working, say, the 24% tax bracket.

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Tax-Smart Retirement Planning and the Long-Term Return of Gold

You contribute to that pre-tax account.

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Tax-Smart Retirement Planning and the Long-Term Return of Gold

You're getting that deduction on 24%.

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Tax-Smart Retirement Planning and the Long-Term Return of Gold

But then in retirement, their effective tax rate is like 12% to 15%.

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Tax-Smart Retirement Planning and the Long-Term Return of Gold

So, of course, in that situation, it makes total sense to take the deduction sooner and then pay taxes at that lower rate in retirement.

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Tax-Smart Retirement Planning and the Long-Term Return of Gold

You highlighted a couple of things that people often will bring up as a reason to have more Roth assets.

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Tax-Smart Retirement Planning and the Long-Term Return of Gold

One is RMDs, Required Minimum Distributions.

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Tax-Smart Retirement Planning and the Long-Term Return of Gold

The other is IRMA, income-related monthly adjustment amount for Medicare.

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Tax-Smart Retirement Planning and the Long-Term Return of Gold

But as you point out at the book, when you actually calculate those amounts as a percentage of the overall portfolio and the withdrawal, they're probably more of a nuisance than anything else.