Robert Diamant

And I saw that you went to South by Southwest and you were like very quickly doing amazing things.

But the thing that I also connected with when I first heard the song was that you did your debut gig in Cuba, which is a gay bar in central London, which I used to frequent as a kid.

Like when I was like 18 or 17, we used to go there and I could not believe you chose that as your, your first place to play live.

I was like, now that's cool.

Another thing I really connected with was the visual language that you're starting to develop.

I feel like you've got your own kind of vocabulary and actually it's totally authentic, but it does also feel like a kind of amazing artistic construct.

Your first music video was directed with Sophie Muller, as I mentioned in the introduction, but you also collaborated with an artist and performer called Theo Adams.

I just think that was such an interesting choice because Sophie was known in the 90s and maybe even 80s for working with people like Annie Lennox on the Diva record, which was one of my most exciting eras of being a pop fan in a way of music because I feel like Annie was telling stories in a really artistic way.

through visual language.

And when I watched your video, I watched it about five times in a row.

I was just like, this is so direct and so artistic.

I just loved it, all the layers of it.

And it's actually a really complex video for something that seems very spontaneous.

What was it like working with both of them?

Some of my favorite moments in pop history have been when performance art is brought into the pop arena.

And it got me thinking of when Lindsey Kemp collaborated with Kate Bush in the late 70s.

And she learned to mime and do all these different dance performances, even outside of ballet.

It was much more psychological.

And to collaborate with someone like Theo Adams, who's a performance artist, and he actually has his own theatrical performance group called the Theo Adams Company.

The more I've been looking at Theo's kind of universe, it's so magical and just artistic.