Robert Diament

And it was hand embroidered by your mum.

And it's basically like a fig or a fig leaf with it, which obviously has its own connotations of kind of Adam and Eve, like nature and how nature can look like body parts.

Can you speak a bit about that work?

Because I was blown away by its intensity.

And it's kind of weight as a sculpture, considering it is technically textile art, and what at the time was seen as women's work.

And also, it's really interesting when you think of Paula's drawings in terms of how ideas are formed.

And you were showing me in the archive as well, like all these photographs that she used to take every time she would make a painting.

At the end of the day, she would take a photograph and then print it out and she would have this kind of archive of how the painting had been constructed.

So as the work would evolve, you see figures completely change shape or, you know, things are hidden that might have been underneath.

So you see all these different layers.

And I saw a real parallel to the way that she drew because I heard when she drew, she might start off with a story or an idea of who she's drawing.

But slowly the drawing has its own life.

And you almost get a kind of sense of fiction as well.

There's some sort of like, you know, because folklore is such a big part of her interest and fairy tales, which are also kind of truths, but they come out of a fiction.

There's a relationship in her drawn line to how this fiction would start to evolve.

And then right at the end, she's like, what is that?

And suddenly it's telling her a truth that she hadn't even consciously understood until she'd made that drawing.

But I found that that parallel between the paintings and the drawn line so important in her work.

It's so interesting as well, thinking about invention and innovation in your mum's seven decades of making work, particularly through the drawings, because she was using different materials to make drawings.

So in every kind of five, 10 years, it might shift and there might be like a different material that comes in.