Robert Draper

And so Trump, for all of his own focus historically on domestic problems, is now realizing it's easier to be godlike in the foreign policy arena than at home.

Right.

But in raising that point, Natalie, what you're doing is essentially introducing what I think is an important distinction.

And that is the distinction between two slogans by President Trump, MAGA, Make America Great Again, and America First.

So Make America Great Again is basically a campaign slogan.

It's inextricably tied to President Trump.

I mean, everyone kind of understands that what it means is like America wasn't great when Obama was president.

It became great when Trump became president.

It became terrible again when Biden was president.

Now it's great again because of Trump.

It's, to put it bluntly, a personality cult notion.

But it is finally a slogan.

America first is a principle.

And defining what America first is is the kind of thing that's subject to useful ideological argument.

I think that Tucker Carlson and perhaps just as much Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene have been at the forefront of saying, look, America First principles have been laid out.

They have been commonly understood by conservatives, by voters of President Trump.

And now the Trump administration has been wayward, has veered off of those commitments to Americans.

Yes, that his own actions seem to be at variance with his pledges to put Americans first.

And it's this cognitive dissonance that began to result in another noticeable fracture in the party, particularly with Marjorie Taylor Greene.

I mean, Natalie, it is a singular journey.