Robert Epstein

That is so funny that you ask that because I knew it was just a matter of time before somebody reaches out to me from the new administration. I knew that. And I just got contacted a couple of days ago by someone from the Doge team. So that's so interesting that you predicted that. And I'm trying to figure out what to do here because I have to keep focusing on the scientific work.

That is so funny that you ask that because I knew it was just a matter of time before somebody reaches out to me from the new administration. I knew that. And I just got contacted a couple of days ago by someone from the Doge team. So that's so interesting that you predicted that. And I'm trying to figure out what to do here because I have to keep focusing on the scientific work.

and expanding the monitoring system. And I think I need to stay away from the bureaucrats of all sorts.

and expanding the monitoring system. And I think I need to stay away from the bureaucrats of all sorts.

As I said, I'm thinking about it. I knew that they would reach out at some point, and they just did. And at the moment, I'm thinking I need to stay away from them. It's easy to get distracted. Yeah.

As I said, I'm thinking about it. I knew that they would reach out at some point, and they just did. And at the moment, I'm thinking I need to stay away from them. It's easy to get distracted. Yeah.

Well, a lot of people have been studying that issue. That's not my main area of study, but a lot of people have been studying that issue. And the fact is that people are easy to manipulate, and we have some very powerful

Well, a lot of people have been studying that issue. That's not my main area of study, but a lot of people have been studying that issue. And the fact is that people are easy to manipulate, and we have some very powerful

means of manipulation that are overwhelming, I think, this country right now, and that are unfortunately setting one American against the other, which George Washington, by the way, was very, very scared that that would happen. He was totally opposed to the two-party system. So was John Adams. Thomas Jefferson said, if the only way I could get to heaven would be to join a party, I wouldn't go.

means of manipulation that are overwhelming, I think, this country right now, and that are unfortunately setting one American against the other, which George Washington, by the way, was very, very scared that that would happen. He was totally opposed to the two-party system. So was John Adams. Thomas Jefferson said, if the only way I could get to heaven would be to join a party, I wouldn't go.

So we have mechanisms in place right now, including a very charismatic president who has a big effect on people, and including these tech companies who, generally speaking, have tried to undo Trump. But now they seem to be shifting over to get in his good graces. And That is really frightening if you think about it.

So we have mechanisms in place right now, including a very charismatic president who has a big effect on people, and including these tech companies who, generally speaking, have tried to undo Trump. But now they seem to be shifting over to get in his good graces. And That is really frightening if you think about it.

If the tech companies are working with the administration, then there's no one to regulate or to constrain the tech companies.

If the tech companies are working with the administration, then there's no one to regulate or to constrain the tech companies.

Yeah, well, what's happening now is different, unfortunately. That has never happened before in history. For one thing, Google alone is not just influencing people in the U.S., but around the world. So that's never happened before. No dictator, J. Edgar Hoover, whoever did the Stasi, whoever it is who were control freaks, they've never had that kind of influence influencing people.

Yeah, well, what's happening now is different, unfortunately. That has never happened before in history. For one thing, Google alone is not just influencing people in the U.S., but around the world. So that's never happened before. No dictator, J. Edgar Hoover, whoever did the Stasi, whoever it is who were control freaks, they've never had that kind of influence influencing people.

literally almost everyone in the world outside of mainland china i mean that's a lot of people so that's new the other thing that's new is these new techniques have never existed before they've been made possible by the internet the internet has only been around for 20 years and they've only figured out how to use it to manipulate on a massive scale in maybe the last 10 to 12 years and

literally almost everyone in the world outside of mainland china i mean that's a lot of people so that's new the other thing that's new is these new techniques have never existed before they've been made possible by the internet the internet has only been around for 20 years and they've only figured out how to use it to manipulate on a massive scale in maybe the last 10 to 12 years and

And so this is different. The other thing is you can't counteract what they're doing. If you... Dr. Pinsky, if you buy a billboard to support your candidate, I can buy one across the street. I can buy two.

And so this is different. The other thing is you can't counteract what they're doing. If you... Dr. Pinsky, if you buy a billboard to support your candidate, I can buy one across the street. I can buy two.