Robert Evans

And I think that the 1600s is when you start to get like modern chess.

And by the 1800s and early 1900s, people had started selling and marketing war games with little lead soldiers, often simulating Napoleonic combat or like American Civil War combat.

But this is when you start to get war games that at least you could recognize at a glance as the same kind of thing as Warhammer, where you've got two dudes and they're pushing little models of soldiers around a table, right?

Like that's kind of when that comes into being.

Yeah.

Games Workshop had been founded in 1975 by three friends who loved these first stirrings of nerd culture and wanted to make and sell games of their own.

The first edition of Warhammer, which is now called Warhammer Fantasy, came out in 1983.

In 1986, Games Workshop published an issue of their company magazine, White Dwarf, that featured an orc model carrying a banner with the face of Margaret Thatcher and the Prime Minister of the UK painted on it.

And the piece was labeled Maggie's Death Banner.

And there's a...

I'm going to show this to you, Joe.

It's fucking great.

Yeah.

First off, pretty good paint job like this.

It's a credible, credibly painted orc.

And that's just straight up Margaret Thatcher's face on a banner with like a severed hand on the top.

It's great.

Right.

Yes.

Yes.