Robert Evans

Like they barely even had phones.

And this dude is calling around, checking on his girlfriend everywhere she goes and like making sure her story matches at like, you know, like 15.

Right.

Unhinged.

I think it's, you know, yeah, well, and here's the thing.

This is something that I think is interesting.

A lot of musicians are weirdos, right?

It's like there's a certain thing that goes along with being a weirdo and being like that kind of musical genius that people can like, that you can hear a song and, you know, and play it the first time you hear it, right?

Right.

There's something that's like kind of hand in hand with the two personalities that kind of seem to go together a lot of times.

So it's not weird to be weird, right?

It's not weird to be small.

It's not weird to be skinny.

It's like I know a lot of those people in the music industry, but it is...

weird to be possessive and shitty and treat, and have a pattern against women, which we'll see in this whole thing.

So during his teenage years in Los Angeles, Spector became obsessed with guitarist Barney Kessel, one of the most respected and accomplished session musicians working in the recording industry.

Kessel was a jazz guitarist, but would often go on to play pop hits of the day and eventually became part of the legendary Wrecking Crew.

If you know about Hollywood music in this time, the Wrecking Crew is everything.

They played on every single song in the late 50s and early 60s, all the way to the 70s, pretty much.

They were the band you heard in the back of it.