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Robert Evans

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: Part Two: How Cigarettes Invented Everything

The 1930s are where we're going to see the first attempts on a large scale to document the relationship between cigarettes and cancer.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: Part Two: How Cigarettes Invented Everything

The impetus for this research actually comes from one of the few industries that can rival big tobacco for sheer evil, the insurance industry.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: Part Two: How Cigarettes Invented Everything

Right.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: Part Two: How Cigarettes Invented Everything

They are the people who are going to, because they see this early research and they're like, wait a second, we're paying a shitload of money out on all these fuckers dying of lung cancer.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: Part Two: How Cigarettes Invented Everything

If cigarettes cause it, we need to be charging people more if they smoke, right?

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: Part Two: How Cigarettes Invented Everything

Like they're doing it for evil reasons, but it is important.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: Part Two: How Cigarettes Invented Everything

research.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: Part Two: How Cigarettes Invented Everything

King Kong versus Godzilla.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: Part Two: How Cigarettes Invented Everything

Exactly.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: Part Two: How Cigarettes Invented Everything

So one of the chief drivers of this is a guy named Frederick Hoffman, who is a statistician at Prudential.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: Part Two: How Cigarettes Invented Everything

And Hoffman notices in 1931 that a lot of fucking life insurance policies are being filled for dead lung cancer patients.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: Part Two: How Cigarettes Invented Everything

If smoking was the cause, then again, you're going to need to restructure the way premiums work.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: Part Two: How Cigarettes Invented Everything

A lot of money is at stake, which is obviously what interests Prudential.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: Part Two: How Cigarettes Invented Everything

They

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: Part Two: How Cigarettes Invented Everything

So the thing that Hoffman notices is that in 1915, the lung cancer rate stands at about 0.7 people per thousand people, right?

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: Part Two: How Cigarettes Invented Everything

About 0.7 people per every thousand in the population are likely to get lung cancer.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: Part Two: How Cigarettes Invented Everything

By 1920, it's risen to 1.1 per thousand.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: Part Two: How Cigarettes Invented Everything

It's 1.6 per thousand by 1924 and 1.9 per thousand by 1928.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: Part Two: How Cigarettes Invented Everything

That means in 13 years, the rate of lung cancer has nearly tripled.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: Part Two: How Cigarettes Invented Everything

Now, Hoffman is not bound by the ethical constraints of a doctor, right?