Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

saying that ordering, ordering Elon Musk to not interview Donald Trump, a former president of the United States, the nominee of one of the two major political parties, and the world is not allowed to hear his point of view. It's extraordinary. That is what's coming to this country, and you can already, and a Democratic Party,

is that the party of control, and it's the party of not trusting the people.

Let's, Bobby, let's talk about something then. Let's assume that this election goes in the direction of now your preferred direction, which is Donald Trump wins. What role would you play? And what is your agenda? What is it that you want to accomplish? And explain, make America healthy again in that context, maybe.

I mean, it's the three issues ending censorship, and that's pretty easy to do. You can do it with a series of executive orders ending the Ukraine war, which is complex, but I think can be done very, very quickly. And then, you know, the food issue. Now, it's food, it's medicines, it's corruption in the regulatory agencies.

But would you be a secretary in that administration? Would you be a special advisor?

There is no, you know, there is no deal in terms of me getting a particular post. Oh, there's just an understanding that there would be some kind of co-governance. And The Trump people have already demonstrated their good faith by inviting me to be on the transition team as one of the co-chairs.

And they've done something really wonderful, which is to bring Tulsi Gabbard in, who shares a lot of my views on this issue as the other co-chair. And I think that's a signal that they're sending that they are sincere about this. I'm making a commitment to these issues.

I mean, the big problem is you can't really trust the government to tell you the truth. The agencies are all compromised. They all have very, very bad conflicts. Almost all the people, for example, on the on the food recommendation committees at FDA are people who are part of the food industry. And the same is true on the pharmaceutical side.

The people who are making decisions about what's good for you are actually people who are making huge amounts of profit on those recommendations. And so you can't really trust that the recommendations are are in your best interest. And what we know is that there is no more profitable, there's no bigger profit center or industry in this country than a sick child.

And a sick child is a lifetime customer, a lifetime consumer of very, very expensive products. And you have this alliance between a food industry and a pharmaceutical industry. to keep our children sick, get them addicted. In the 70s and 80s, the tobacco industry was under attack, and the two biggest tobacco companies went out and bought all the big food companies.

Yeah, and Kraft. You had Philip Morris buy Kraft. And they took a lot of the scientists from the tobacco industry who are experts on making products addictive, and they put them to work on making food addictive, on making ultra-processed food. So adding ingredients that make food, that destroy the satiability of food so that food doesn't fill you up, so you're always craving more food.

And those products, many of them are products, you know, we have almost a thousand chemicals in our foods that are banned in Europe and banned in other countries. And those products are products that have been introduced by chemists. That did not exist before and the body does not handle them well. And, you know, we're seeing this explosion in chronic disease.

When my uncle was president, 6% of Americans had chronic disease. You know what the budget was for chronic disease when my uncle was president? Zero. There wasn't any drugs for it. There was no expenditures on chronic disease. Today, it's $4.3 trillion. It's five times our military budget.

And the people who are making money are the pharmaceutical companies, the insurance companies, which actually you would think insurance companies would want people to be, well, they actually make more money if they're sick. The hospital is the medical cartel. The people we trust to make advice to us about our health are actually compromised. And that's the difficult part.

You've got to unravel that corporate capture.

I think what Bobby says rings true in the way that I live my life and I just see it demonstrated on my own body. You're right, Jason. My wife's Italian. She runs an Italian company. She works Italian and American hours for 10 months out of the year. And for those 10 weeks, we go there and we flip schedule. But when I'm there, I'm consuming Italian produce that isn't packed in plastic.

I go to a local fruit store. I go to the local fish vendor. And my body changes. And I know that because the people that see me when I get back, they always comment, oh, did you lose weight? Oh, do you look thinner or this or that? And what's interesting is I actually do a body composition before I leave and after. I've done this for seven years now.

And I can tell you that my weight doesn't change that much, but my body composition is completely different. And I don't know what it is except the things that I'm putting in my body that's different. And so I see it and I'm running an A-B test every day.

The fish is outrageous. But there are ways to eat at a materially lower price than there is here. And the access to the ultra-processed food is different there. You can't get the stuff. And when you do find that stuff, it doesn't have the same glycemic and metabolic load on your body.

Yeah, and this goes to David's point that we need to have cheap food and that that is kind of an outcome that is an admirable or virtuous outcome. The problem is that food isn't cheap. It's cheap on the shelf, but it imposes costs on the rest of us that were the externalities that we're paying elsewhere. So when I was a kid,