Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

A typical pediatrician would see one case of juvenile diabetes in his lifetime. Over a 40- or 50-year career, one case. It was essentially non-existent disease. Today, one out of every three children who walks through his office door is diabetic or pre-diabetic. When I was a kid, the autism rates were between 1 and 1,500. to 1 in 10,000 Americans.

And that is still true in my generation, 70-year-old men. In my kids' generation, according to CDC, it's 1 out of every 34 kids. Some states, like California, it's 1 out of every 22. 77% of Americans are now, or 74% of adults are obese. Half our kids, obesity... When, you know, 100 years ago, if you were obese, you could get a job in the circus. It was so unusual.

So we're now, and who's making a profit now? Ozempic. Ozempic's not going to. You can, obesity is absolutely, and diabetes are absolutely treatable by good food. That's the cause. Now, Ozempic is a good profit center for pharma. There's a bill now which has been paid for by the company that makes it, which is the biggest company in Europe, Novo Nordisk.

In Denmark, where that company is, they do not recommend it. The treatment of diabetes, the standard of care, is diet and exercise. But that company's entire value is based upon the projections of what it's going to sell in the United States. And that company is pouring tens of millions of dollars into lobbying to pass this bill that will make Medicare pay for it for every American who's obese.

That could be 74% of people are now eligible. I think it's $1,500 a week. The cost of that will be $3 trillion a year. If you took $3 trillion a year, a tiny fraction of that, you could buy organic food, three meals a day for every human being in the United States. So wouldn't that be a better expenditure of our money?

And, you know, what I would say is the food producers, it's not a conspiracy, it's just... people following perverse incentives. And there are conspiracies.

I mean, when I sued Monsanto, we got emails that showed that the head of the pesticide division, Jess Rowland, for a decade at EPA was secretly working for Monsanto the entire time, sabotaging studies, creating false science to hide the carcinogenic nature of Roundup. So there are those kind of instances throughout the federal government, but mainly it's just perverse incentives.

Almost close to 100% of our agricultural subsidies go to processed food. I mean, go to commodity agriculture, which is the feedstock for processed food.

oh and then if you look at mostly mostly for mostly for me if the industry controls through lobbying and through you know all these other mechanisms for corporate capture controls the expenditures in the food stamp program so seventy percent of the food stamp program goes for processed food ten percent goes for sugar drinks like coca-cola which are just diabetes machines.

So why are we poisoning poor kids in this country? The school lunch program, the same thing, almost 80%, I think 77% of food, the lunch program is terrible foods that are actually poisoning our children. And don't we care enough about our kids to say, we want to care about them, we want to make sure that they're not sick, They are the most precious things in our country.

Shouldn't that be the focus? And whatever we're doing to make them so sick, When I was a kid, 6% of American kids had chronic disease. Today, 60%. Is that not an alarm? Is that not something that we should all be concerned about?

Bobby, can you comment on when people talk about revamping the food supply, one of the things that sometimes is not allowed to be said is that focusing on organic food and produce can exclude certain communities. And so there's like this DEI filter that preferring that is almost racist in some way. Like, can you just comment on that whole vein of thinking and your thought on that?

I think feeding people poisonous food is racist. By the way, the NAACP gets huge amounts of money every year from the food industry. It may be one of the biggest. I think Coca-Cola is the biggest supporter of NAACP. A lot of the NGOs that are supposed to be

Concern about the disproportionate impact on minority communities of federal policies have actually been bought off and bought into the process. And, you know, a lot of times those are the voices you hear saying this is racist. What's really racist is poisoning black Americans because these are communities that are food deserts.

The school lunch program, oftentimes in those communities, the biggest access that they have to food, and we're giving them poison food. Many of these communities have no grocery stores. They definitely don't have Whole Foods. They don't have access to those kinds of foods. Shouldn't we have national policies that... then make sure our people are healthy.

And, you know, they use, of course, market dynamics, but also supports. We're giving billions of dollars in agricultural subsidies for farmers to addict farmers to growing commodity agriculture, which is bad food. It's low in nutrients. It's high in chemicals. It's high in pesticides. And, you know, we need to change these perverse incentives so that and feed America.

You know, how can anybody argue with this? How can anybody say that we should not have healthy children, that we should be giving people food that is hurting them? It's just it doesn't make any sense.

Well, let me react to the last thing you said about President Trump. I think if President Trump wins, that people are gonna see a very different President Trump than they did during the first term. I think he's changed as a person, and I've known him for 30 years. I've sued him, I've litigated against him, and had a friendship with him even when I was litigating against him.

and by the way, successfully against him. But I think he is, he's focused on his legacy. He said many interesting things to me about what he did wrong the last time and about how He had no idea he was going to win. He had no idea how to govern. And people descended on him the day that he got elected and said, you got to appoint this guy, appoint this guy.

And he said, I appointed a lot of people I shouldn't have appointed. I know who they are now. He also said something interesting to me. He said, the Democrats, one of the big sort of fulcrums of their terror of Trump is that He's going to implement this Heritage Foundation, you know, blueprint, which is called Project 2025.