Robert Glazer

But yeah, it's hard.

So I had to work through that.

And the problem with strivers is they get to a goal and they barely celebrate for five minutes and then start figuring out whatever the next one will be.

But yeah, a lot of people really struggle.

There are a lot of people who sell their business or step out or otherwise who are super depressed.

because their identity was really wrapped up in their business.

So...

Arthur Brooks wrote a great book called From Strength to Strength.

Because look, for a lot of people too, that business was the first thing that started to pay you back and give you the A's that you never got in school.

And I think it's really helpful to start thinking about how you think about success in the present and yourself in the present and how you make those transitions.

A lot of entrepreneurs were not great students and people that start businesses.

So it becomes hard when you have to decouple that from you.

And it's an intentional process that you have to go through.

No.

So I'm executive chairman.

And when I gave up the CEO role, I moved on to the board.

I've done a lot of things wrong.

Yeah, he was my number two.

I think this is one that I did pretty well, which is I stopped going to the meetings.

He was the president of the company and we had worked together for 10 years.