Robert Mustacchi

And this has been true when I've been debugging up and down across the stack, whether it's software, whether it's hardware. It really is a team effort. And even though some of the debugging is there, is sometimes a solitary activity at first,

And this has been true when I've been debugging up and down across the stack, whether it's software, whether it's hardware. It really is a team effort. And even though some of the debugging is there, is sometimes a solitary activity at first,

a lot of the other pieces like writing it up um having you know especially keith and i when we were doing bring up i think the fact that we were working together uh even though we're tackling different parts means we would write up different things in some of our bug reports review each other's notes uh ask questions of one another and the act of asking questions and being forced to answer them uh is there you know that's that's been the same thing that's true and we've been bugging uh you know

a lot of the other pieces like writing it up um having you know especially keith and i when we were doing bring up i think the fact that we were working together uh even though we're tackling different parts means we would write up different things in some of our bug reports review each other's notes uh ask questions of one another and the act of asking questions and being forced to answer them uh is there you know that's that's been the same thing that's true and we've been bugging uh you know

some of the T6 stuff which Nathaniel and I were working on recently or other things that we're doing that are up and down across the stack. I think the first thing is that you're not alone and you have the expertise or even just the different perspectives of all of your colleagues. And I think that's really invaluable in and of itself.

some of the T6 stuff which Nathaniel and I were working on recently or other things that we're doing that are up and down across the stack. I think the first thing is that you're not alone and you have the expertise or even just the different perspectives of all of your colleagues. And I think that's really invaluable in and of itself.

Because they'll ask you questions that might make you think in a different way or prompt different thinking.

Because they'll ask you questions that might make you think in a different way or prompt different thinking.

and you know it can never be just you know yes sometimes you need some time where you kind of you you get off the world and just kind of stare at things um but really it is uh working with others i think that ends up being necessary to kind of get through some of these harder bits because that's i think partly what helps uh helps you get through it um

and you know it can never be just you know yes sometimes you need some time where you kind of you you get off the world and just kind of stare at things um but really it is uh working with others i think that ends up being necessary to kind of get through some of these harder bits because that's i think partly what helps uh helps you get through it um

Because, you know, if I'm stuck and I see Keith making progress and that helps there, or if I see us making progress, you know, on the board work or higher up in the, you know, the control plane or other parts of the product or, you know, down below, then that kind of helps, you know, motivate you to kind of keep going. You know, it's not all bad. Right.

Because, you know, if I'm stuck and I see Keith making progress and that helps there, or if I see us making progress, you know, on the board work or higher up in the, you know, the control plane or other parts of the product or, you know, down below, then that kind of helps, you know, motivate you to kind of keep going. You know, it's not all bad. Right.

Sure. I can try. I mean, I think there's a lot of stuff that's just virtue of, you know, being at the company earlier, there wasn't really a lot of other folks to do stuff. Yes. So, you know, there, there, there is a lot of stuff where it's just like, Hey, how do we start thinking about this? And,

Sure. I can try. I mean, I think there's a lot of stuff that's just virtue of, you know, being at the company earlier, there wasn't really a lot of other folks to do stuff. Yes. So, you know, there, there, there is a lot of stuff where it's just like, Hey, how do we start thinking about this? And,

I think for me, one of the things that's there is that you'll see in that, actually, RFID 63 was like the last of a set of networking docs. And it really started from higher level product comparison, kind of feature use cases, user networking API that we wanted in another doc. And then with that in mind, how do we start building up the lower level stuff?

I think for me, one of the things that's there is that you'll see in that, actually, RFID 63 was like the last of a set of networking docs. And it really started from higher level product comparison, kind of feature use cases, user networking API that we wanted in another doc. And then with that in mind, how do we start building up the lower level stuff?

But I think a lot of it comes back to, you know, for some of these things, they're things I've been thinking about for a while, so that helps. You know, even though RFD 63, there's a lot of retrospective and on past attempts there or goals or, you know, things that worked well, things that didn't work well, you know, what we learned from paper reading and other stuff.

But I think a lot of it comes back to, you know, for some of these things, they're things I've been thinking about for a while, so that helps. You know, even though RFD 63, there's a lot of retrospective and on past attempts there or goals or, you know, things that worked well, things that didn't work well, you know, what we learned from paper reading and other stuff.

And, you know, I think coming back to the dog, you know, if you go back to that dog patch decks in 2014, there's a lot of the high level goals and, you know, I'd say experience and kind of usability goals, you know, still kind of, you know, are things that are kind of at the, always in the back of my head.

And, you know, I think coming back to the dog, you know, if you go back to that dog patch decks in 2014, there's a lot of the high level goals and, you know, I'd say experience and kind of usability goals, you know, still kind of, you know, are things that are kind of at the, always in the back of my head.