Robert Paston

The fact that we haven't had, as you say, even coherent messages, some would argue.

It's not even coherent, yes.

It is troubling.

So I'm going to ask you a very unfair question.

Now, I don't think I've asked you any unfair ones, but this is genuinely unfair.

So so so the answer to the following question is you can't say trust.

We've already parked trust as as as an anomaly to one to one side.

But having been steeped in this stuff for decades, who in the context of the kind of stuff we've been discussing today, which is trying to do sensible things,

which, in your view, would be the best and which the worst government?

I mean, my rough and ready calculation is on a three trillion pound economy, we're looking at 240 billion of income that has disappeared.

Is that right?

Hello and welcome to The Rest Is Money with me, Robert Paston.

I think Steph McGovern's off solving crime again or whatever she does in her spare time.

But I'm thrilled that I'm joined by the distinguished Stanford economics professor, Nick Bloom.

Nick, very good to see you.

And I think most of what we'll talk about today is the report that you did on the costs of Brexit, which...

pleased some people and infuriated others.

Um, and I was quite struck.

I don't know if you regarded this as a badge of honor or, um, something, uh, that you'd rather not have happened, but I noticed that the chancellor has taken to referring to your, uh, assessment that leaving the EU has led to an 8% reduction in, uh, GDP, uh,

an 8% loss in national income.