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Robert

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Behind the Bastards
Part Two: From Elliott Rodger to Clavicular: The Story of Incel Evolution

Yeah, because it sounds so fucking stupid.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: From Elliott Rodger to Clavicular: The Story of Incel Evolution

Because it sounds so fucking stupid and silly, right?

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: From Elliott Rodger to Clavicular: The Story of Incel Evolution

And the fact that incels have invented all these terms, so many bespoke words, and that they're always making new ones isn't weird.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: From Elliott Rodger to Clavicular: The Story of Incel Evolution

I want to say that much right up front.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: From Elliott Rodger to Clavicular: The Story of Incel Evolution

For one thing, subcultures like this are heavy on the cult part.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: From Elliott Rodger to Clavicular: The Story of Incel Evolution

For sure.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: From Elliott Rodger to Clavicular: The Story of Incel Evolution

And a major dimension of cult dynamics is creating unique terms and phrases that only mean something to people in the cult.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: From Elliott Rodger to Clavicular: The Story of Incel Evolution

This is how you separate cultists from the rest of society and also isolate them.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: From Elliott Rodger to Clavicular: The Story of Incel Evolution

Now, there's not a cult leader in the case of incels, but they do use these terms as a way to determine who's a true cell or not, right?

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: From Elliott Rodger to Clavicular: The Story of Incel Evolution

If you know how to use the lingo right, then maybe you're one of them.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: From Elliott Rodger to Clavicular: The Story of Incel Evolution

But if you make an obvious mistake in how you're using it, then they can tell you don't belong here.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: From Elliott Rodger to Clavicular: The Story of Incel Evolution

You're either new or you're an infiltrator.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: From Elliott Rodger to Clavicular: The Story of Incel Evolution

This is an old thing in online communities.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: From Elliott Rodger to Clavicular: The Story of Incel Evolution

I can remember similar stuff happening on different boards in Something Awful where it's like if you post there and you don't know the posting style and the in-jokes they use, you'll immediately get found out as someone who doesn't belong, right?

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: From Elliott Rodger to Clavicular: The Story of Incel Evolution

Right.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: From Elliott Rodger to Clavicular: The Story of Incel Evolution

Yeah.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: From Elliott Rodger to Clavicular: The Story of Incel Evolution

So this isn't weird that incels do this, but what's confounding and is novel is how successful incel terms and memes have been at spreading in normie culture.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: From Elliott Rodger to Clavicular: The Story of Incel Evolution

Adam's book, AlgoSpeak, traces how this happened, starting from incel-only spaces like pickup artist hate and expanding out to 4chan's R9K board, as Adam explains in AlgoSpeak.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: From Elliott Rodger to Clavicular: The Story of Incel Evolution

Let's start where their philosophy began in earnest, 4chan.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: From Elliott Rodger to Clavicular: The Story of Incel Evolution

Despite the forum's earliest importance, it remained a place where incels mixed with normies.