Robert

Yep.

It's really dark.

It's fucking, yeah, it's sad.

And it's like, this is happening.

And this is, I want to note, because we will talk about the dangers algorithms play in all of this.

This is all pre-algorithmic harm.

Not that there aren't algorithms in social media in 2013, 14, but that's not really affecting the growth of the incel subculture at this stage.

These people are meeting on forums that don't really, people are finding this organically, right?

They're not being slalomed this kind of content for the most part from like an algorithm at this stage, right?

That's not yet a factor.

So the fact that like the incel hate and this belief that like women are hypergamous, right?

And sometimes this is like incels really hate polyamorous people for the same reason that like, oh, it's a couple of chads hogging all the Stacys, right?

Or just like- We could just hate polyamorous people just for fun, you know?

You could just do that anyway.

People have been doing it for forever.

But this is all coached – again, it has to be – this can't just be I just don't like this stuff and I'm a dick.

There has to be evolutionary justification for it, right?

And so the justification they come up with is, well, women are programmed by evolution to seek the strongest provider for their future children, which all women want to have, obviously.

I know women.

I've talked to them.