Robert

And I guess that's probably true.

But also, I can see Dan, like, mixing up who he played football with and when, but remembering accurately somebody called him a slur, you know?

Yeah, it'd be pretty easy to do growing up in the area.

Yeah.

But Mark did say, the truth is, I never heard either brother called anything other than their name by me or anyone else.

And that's the thing.

If before, Mark's saying, like, well, we weren't even in high school together.

You know, this is a big story at the time.

I'd be willing to believe maybe somebody would, like, lie for attention there.

you know, to have a little moment in the biggest news story of all time at this point.

But Mark is like, I never heard anyone call those boys a name.

I'm sorry.

You guys grew up.

These are like the only two black kids in town.

You grew up in the fifties in rural Washington and you never heard anyone call them anything but their name.

Right.

Right.

And the it's the or would have mistaken like you for young brother, maybe.

I don't know.

Like the the the whole the whole idea that like he never heard any racism against these kids in small town Washington.