Robin Bailey

And it's interesting you talk about how, I think it was Tony's dad that was like, don't tell them what happened, say it was a heart attack.

What was it?

in that moment through the fog of everything that unimaginable that made you know that the truth was what you had to speak to your sons.

Who reacted first?

Can you remember?

It's...

sets you on an extraordinary path, obviously, an uncharted path.

But mostly, and when I was reading the book, I was reminded oddly of lockdown because I was thinking...

most children grow up with their parents editing themselves.

And we do that, you know, consciously or life plays a part because of logistics and sports and obligations and busyness and work.

So your kids get an edited version of you.

In lockdown, my kids got an unedited version of me.

And there was something in it that was almost a relief.

For you, it seems that you presented your sons that you didn't have the energy to edit, even though you're always conscious of how you needed to navigate things for them.

How did it feel for you to present yourself to your sons, whose life had changed so instantly, as your unfiltered self?

They are, as you've described them in the book, you know, the eldest, the wilding, raging against the machine middle child, the sweet youngest.

Yeah.

But what they also had to contend with was that their mother lived in the public eye and that your work involved sharing yourself.

When they asked what you were intending to do, were they asking that because they were scared of what you were going to do or was it a mutual question?

Oh, probably.