Rochelle Keyhan
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Yeah, because Rico requires like more than one guy, you know? So, I mean, not necessarily to be charged, but by its nature, it means they've found some others.
Yeah, because Rico requires like more than one guy, you know? So, I mean, not necessarily to be charged, but by its nature, it means they've found some others.
It can, absolutely. And I think that's why often prosecutors are stressed when civil stuff gets filed because the civil attorneys don't necessarily care how it affects the criminal. So I think often the hope is when you're collaborating that civil will wait to really push hard and forward until after the criminal is complete.
It can, absolutely. And I think that's why often prosecutors are stressed when civil stuff gets filed because the civil attorneys don't necessarily care how it affects the criminal. So I think often the hope is when you're collaborating that civil will wait to really push hard and forward until after the criminal is complete.
So I think that there's a lot that can manifest after sort of like all the chips fall and we know who the co-conspirators are that are confirmed. I think it will open up a lot civilly.
So I think that there's a lot that can manifest after sort of like all the chips fall and we know who the co-conspirators are that are confirmed. I think it will open up a lot civilly.
I think it helps a lot. Maybe less on P. Diddy's because I think he identified as a pimp a lot. You know what I mean? We're not surprised by his. And one good piece on P. Diddy's that it's really highlighting is it looks like their girlfriend because that's how they're grooming them. That's how they're building their trust. before they get it done. So yeah, it does look like their girlfriend.
I think it helps a lot. Maybe less on P. Diddy's because I think he identified as a pimp a lot. You know what I mean? We're not surprised by his. And one good piece on P. Diddy's that it's really highlighting is it looks like their girlfriend because that's how they're grooming them. That's how they're building their trust. before they get it done. So yeah, it does look like their girlfriend.
And the girlfriend might not even realize that this guy doesn't love them at all. And it's just the form of control that's present. And it's humanizing, I think, victims that otherwise you could just say, well, why didn't they just leave their abusive relationship? It's really giving more depth to our understanding as a community.
And the girlfriend might not even realize that this guy doesn't love them at all. And it's just the form of control that's present. And it's humanizing, I think, victims that otherwise you could just say, well, why didn't they just leave their abusive relationship? It's really giving more depth to our understanding as a community.
So I really wish these high profile people weren't doing it, but it makes a lot more people pay closer attention, which is amazing, I think, for us That's why I'm having hope that the jury just knows better now than they did 10 or 15 years ago.
So I really wish these high profile people weren't doing it, but it makes a lot more people pay closer attention, which is amazing, I think, for us That's why I'm having hope that the jury just knows better now than they did 10 or 15 years ago.
Yeah, but it's a lot less scary if we're like, oh, it's a boogeyman. It's out of our control as opposed to my best friend or my uncle or my dad could be the one, you know?
Yeah, but it's a lot less scary if we're like, oh, it's a boogeyman. It's out of our control as opposed to my best friend or my uncle or my dad could be the one, you know?
Absolutely. So prosecutors are often charging the highest, most comprehensive charge that they can find. So in this case, trafficking is the bigger charge, even though underneath it, it's going to have assault, sex assault, all kinds of other felonies as well.
Absolutely. So prosecutors are often charging the highest, most comprehensive charge that they can find. So in this case, trafficking is the bigger charge, even though underneath it, it's going to have assault, sex assault, all kinds of other felonies as well.
And that lets them make sure they have strong enough penalties, but still present like a clear, cohesive picture, tell a clear story that doesn't get distracted by other clauses they have to prove for charges. So it's a great strategy from that perspective. And then, yeah, what's tough is not all the evidence they have then gets to fit into that narrative. And you're making a tradeoff here.
And that lets them make sure they have strong enough penalties, but still present like a clear, cohesive picture, tell a clear story that doesn't get distracted by other clauses they have to prove for charges. So it's a great strategy from that perspective. And then, yeah, what's tough is not all the evidence they have then gets to fit into that narrative. And you're making a tradeoff here.