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maybe has done it more impressive than most because they've done it across two coaches.

Remember, James Madison got to this college football playoff with most of its good players on two years ago's team on Indiana's college football playoff team or on their team last year that also won the college football playoff.

Can you tell me what state both of those schools are in?

By the way, some folks in Blacksburg have noticed that.

Moments of the year.

I'm going to take the ACC championship, like everything that that was.

It was, first of all, it was the culmination of complete and total mismanagement.

Because the ACC just structure again, as I've said on this show, the ACC very well could have structured its championship game like the or its championship tiebreakers, I should say, like the American did in that they're going to say, all right, college football playoff seating will be in one of the tiebreakers so that at the end of the day,

We can abate the complete and total disaster scenario.

The ACC did not do that.

It was assumed that the improbable would never happen.

But because you have conferences that are so big with disparate schedules and teams that don't play each other and yada, yada, yada, blah, blah, blah.

You had a situation where

what was it about halfway through the season, Alex, we kind of took a look at that Duke thing and we were like, Oh wait, Duke can do this.

And then everybody forgot about it because it went away for a couple of weeks because Duke lost again because they were at the time for lost team and they lost the fifth time.

And they were like, all right, it was, it was funny.

And then it's not going to happen.

But then it comes back into fruition and,

And everything plays into the favor of this all happening.

I mean, if Wake doesn't beat SMU and on and on and on, if SMU doesn't beat Miami and on and on and on and on, we don't have the situation that we have.