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Rogé Karma

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503 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

Plain English with Derek Thompson
‘The Job Market for Young People Is Brutal’

And I think all of the statistics you just brought up are absolutely accurate.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
‘The Job Market for Young People Is Brutal’

I hear the same ones from economists all the time.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
‘The Job Market for Young People Is Brutal’

The same economists are emailing both of us.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
‘The Job Market for Young People Is Brutal’

Yes, the same economists are emailing both of us.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
‘The Job Market for Young People Is Brutal’

And I think it is very hard.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
‘The Job Market for Young People Is Brutal’

It is very obvious as a journalist when you are looking at what stories get the most clicks to know that when you write about something, things that are alarming that are happening to young college graduates, people flock to those stories.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
‘The Job Market for Young People Is Brutal’

It is a story that a lot of us, I think, want to believe.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
‘The Job Market for Young People Is Brutal’

I think that has caused this narrative to get over-torqued.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
‘The Job Market for Young People Is Brutal’

That said, I want to complicate at least one of those statistics a little bit.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
‘The Job Market for Young People Is Brutal’

And I feel like so much of this conversation is going to end up revolving around the ways that statistics can be mirages and the ways that they can be actually more complicated.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
‘The Job Market for Young People Is Brutal’

And so basically, it actually was true that for most of the Great Recession, when you looked at wealth statistics...

Plain English with Derek Thompson
‘The Job Market for Young People Is Brutal’

young people really were behind, right?

Plain English with Derek Thompson
‘The Job Market for Young People Is Brutal’

It was in 2016, the St.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
‘The Job Market for Young People Is Brutal’

Louis Fed came out with a study basically showing that millennials at their age were about 34% behind in terms of aggregate wealth, the generations above them at that age.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
‘The Job Market for Young People Is Brutal’

What has happened though is over the last 10 years, that gap has closed and now millennials are actually, like you said, wealthier.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
‘The Job Market for Young People Is Brutal’

But you have to understand that a huge part of that closure was the appreciation of home prices that happened between 2019 and 2022.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
‘The Job Market for Young People Is Brutal’

So over those, during the pandemic, right, you see home prices increase at some of their fastest rates in history.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
‘The Job Market for Young People Is Brutal’

It's something like 40% in the matter of a few years.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
‘The Job Market for Young People Is Brutal’

That means that millennials who own homes already saw collectively $2.5 trillion in paper wealth being created over those years.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
‘The Job Market for Young People Is Brutal’

And that has opened up what has been described to me as like the single greatest divide within the millennial generation and within Gen Z is if you bought a house before 2020 or you bought a house after 2020.