Roger Frampton

Yes.

So this shoulder is not designed for, it's not evolved to play tennis.

It's evolved to move in all of these, every single position I could possibly move with my shoulder, in all of these.

Hang on a minute.

Here we go.

Your shoulder.

And again, if you want to see a full expression of shoulder movement, take a three-year-old to the playground, watch them be really happy climbing around.

And yeah, so of course, if we don't move our shoulders in that way, they're going to talk to you and they're going to tell you that there's a problem.

It's amazing advice and advice that, again, what we spoke about at the beginning, that they didn't give in the 1970s.

Yes.

And you saw in cartoons people wrapped up

Be careful.

Don't go near it again.

And the message now is never like, okay, I'm going to push into pain.

I'm going to go strong.

I'm going to go hard.

No, that's definitely not the message.

But you want to start to open it up slowly.

If you've got a problem around your shoulder, there's some pain there, start to move your shoulder in as many different ways as possible and explore the possibility of where there is pain and where there isn't and work with your body.

Yeah, definitely.