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Roger Karma

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Radio Atlantic
Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Coalition Starts to Fracture

And so I think the broad consensus in the literature now is that, right, immigration does have costs. It can exacerbate inequality. Tellingly, the wages of other immigrants often get hurt by new immigration. you could see some negative effects in certain sectors, even if it's balanced out by other sectors.

Radio Atlantic
Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Coalition Starts to Fracture

And so I think the broad consensus in the literature now is that, right, immigration does have costs. It can exacerbate inequality. Tellingly, the wages of other immigrants often get hurt by new immigration. you could see some negative effects in certain sectors, even if it's balanced out by other sectors.

Radio Atlantic
Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Coalition Starts to Fracture

But on the whole, it appears to be really beneficial for basically all classes of Native workers.

Radio Atlantic
Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Coalition Starts to Fracture

But on the whole, it appears to be really beneficial for basically all classes of Native workers.

Radio Atlantic
Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Coalition Starts to Fracture

But on the whole, it appears to be really beneficial for basically all classes of Native workers.

Radio Atlantic
Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Coalition Starts to Fracture

There is actually. And I think the claim from Trump and his advisors is that the ultimate pro-worker policy is mass deportation, right? Because what happens when you get rid of a bunch of immigrant laborers, now those employers have to hire natives at higher wages because there's a sort of artificially created labor shortage.

Radio Atlantic
Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Coalition Starts to Fracture

There is actually. And I think the claim from Trump and his advisors is that the ultimate pro-worker policy is mass deportation, right? Because what happens when you get rid of a bunch of immigrant laborers, now those employers have to hire natives at higher wages because there's a sort of artificially created labor shortage.

Radio Atlantic
Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Coalition Starts to Fracture

There is actually. And I think the claim from Trump and his advisors is that the ultimate pro-worker policy is mass deportation, right? Because what happens when you get rid of a bunch of immigrant laborers, now those employers have to hire natives at higher wages because there's a sort of artificially created labor shortage.

Radio Atlantic
Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Coalition Starts to Fracture

And again, very intuitive. But when we actually look at what happens in the real world, we see something very different. So the best study on this, I think, although there's a few, is from the Secure Communities Program, which is a Department of Homeland Security program that between 2008 and 2014, deported about 500,000 immigrants.

Radio Atlantic
Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Coalition Starts to Fracture

And again, very intuitive. But when we actually look at what happens in the real world, we see something very different. So the best study on this, I think, although there's a few, is from the Secure Communities Program, which is a Department of Homeland Security program that between 2008 and 2014, deported about 500,000 immigrants.

Radio Atlantic
Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Coalition Starts to Fracture

And again, very intuitive. But when we actually look at what happens in the real world, we see something very different. So the best study on this, I think, although there's a few, is from the Secure Communities Program, which is a Department of Homeland Security program that between 2008 and 2014, deported about 500,000 immigrants.

Radio Atlantic
Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Coalition Starts to Fracture

Because the program was rolled out community by community, it created this really nice natural experiment where you could see what happened to the communities that had experienced it and the ones hadn't. You could compare them and see what the overall effect.

Radio Atlantic
Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Coalition Starts to Fracture

Because the program was rolled out community by community, it created this really nice natural experiment where you could see what happened to the communities that had experienced it and the ones hadn't. You could compare them and see what the overall effect.

Radio Atlantic
Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Coalition Starts to Fracture

Because the program was rolled out community by community, it created this really nice natural experiment where you could see what happened to the communities that had experienced it and the ones hadn't. You could compare them and see what the overall effect.

Radio Atlantic
Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Coalition Starts to Fracture

And what researchers found actually shocked me, it shocked many of them, was that for every hundred immigrants that were deported, you actually ended up with nine fewer jobs for natives. That's not just temporary, you know, work. That's like nine jobs permanently gone for

Radio Atlantic
Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Coalition Starts to Fracture

And what researchers found actually shocked me, it shocked many of them, was that for every hundred immigrants that were deported, you actually ended up with nine fewer jobs for natives. That's not just temporary, you know, work. That's like nine jobs permanently gone for

Radio Atlantic
Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Coalition Starts to Fracture

And what researchers found actually shocked me, it shocked many of them, was that for every hundred immigrants that were deported, you actually ended up with nine fewer jobs for natives. That's not just temporary, you know, work. That's like nine jobs permanently gone for

Radio Atlantic
Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Coalition Starts to Fracture

in this community and there are many studies that reinforces funding from all across history from the bracero program studies on the h2b program which is like h1b but for lower skilled immigrants studies going all the way back to the great depression that all find similar things and the reason is that immigrants are deeply interwoven into their local economies and so take the restaurant industry

Radio Atlantic
Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Coalition Starts to Fracture

in this community and there are many studies that reinforces funding from all across history from the bracero program studies on the h2b program which is like h1b but for lower skilled immigrants studies going all the way back to the great depression that all find similar things and the reason is that immigrants are deeply interwoven into their local economies and so take the restaurant industry

Radio Atlantic
Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Coalition Starts to Fracture

in this community and there are many studies that reinforces funding from all across history from the bracero program studies on the h2b program which is like h1b but for lower skilled immigrants studies going all the way back to the great depression that all find similar things and the reason is that immigrants are deeply interwoven into their local economies and so take the restaurant industry