Rolfe Winkler
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I asked him, where's that number from? And their first answer was, well, our medical team reviews all our safety disclosures. Okay, but that one doesn't appear anywhere on the drug's label, so where does it come from? I said, oh, well, you found a typo.
I asked him, where's that number from? And their first answer was, well, our medical team reviews all our safety disclosures. Okay, but that one doesn't appear anywhere on the drug's label, so where does it come from? I said, oh, well, you found a typo.
I asked him, where's that number from? And their first answer was, well, our medical team reviews all our safety disclosures. Okay, but that one doesn't appear anywhere on the drug's label, so where does it come from? I said, oh, well, you found a typo.
And, you know, when I spoke to former employees, the reason side effect information is not prominent is because it's what they called friction, right? Again, this is an e-commerce model, and the people who are designing the websites are marketing people. Their job is to get you through the funnel, through the purchase funnel, right?
And, you know, when I spoke to former employees, the reason side effect information is not prominent is because it's what they called friction, right? Again, this is an e-commerce model, and the people who are designing the websites are marketing people. Their job is to get you through the funnel, through the purchase funnel, right?
And, you know, when I spoke to former employees, the reason side effect information is not prominent is because it's what they called friction, right? Again, this is an e-commerce model, and the people who are designing the websites are marketing people. Their job is to get you through the funnel, through the purchase funnel, right?
Show up at the website, put something in the cart, check out with it. Maximize that. That's their job.
Show up at the website, put something in the cart, check out with it. Maximize that. That's their job.
Show up at the website, put something in the cart, check out with it. Maximize that. That's their job.
And very soon after that, there were a lot of controversies about the drug, chiefly the side effects associated with it. Which are what? Well, the ones that are well-known are sexual side effects, but there are a lot of men who have talked about very serious, and I spoke to many of them, very serious cognitive side effects.
And very soon after that, there were a lot of controversies about the drug, chiefly the side effects associated with it. Which are what? Well, the ones that are well-known are sexual side effects, but there are a lot of men who have talked about very serious, and I spoke to many of them, very serious cognitive side effects.
And very soon after that, there were a lot of controversies about the drug, chiefly the side effects associated with it. Which are what? Well, the ones that are well-known are sexual side effects, but there are a lot of men who have talked about very serious, and I spoke to many of them, very serious cognitive side effects.
I'm on HIMS.com, and it gives you all these different options for medications that they'll sell you on subscription.
I'm on HIMS.com, and it gives you all these different options for medications that they'll sell you on subscription.
I'm on HIMS.com, and it gives you all these different options for medications that they'll sell you on subscription.
Insomnia, panic attacks, suicidal ideation and behavior, you know, GI issues.
Insomnia, panic attacks, suicidal ideation and behavior, you know, GI issues.
Insomnia, panic attacks, suicidal ideation and behavior, you know, GI issues.
A key reason they exist is convenience. Some people just want to go on the internet and get a solution. You never have to see a doctor in person. They don't take insurance. It's a cash pay model. You give them their credit card for the medications that you get from them. And they've grown, you know, very, very large.
A key reason they exist is convenience. Some people just want to go on the internet and get a solution. You never have to see a doctor in person. They don't take insurance. It's a cash pay model. You give them their credit card for the medications that you get from them. And they've grown, you know, very, very large.
A key reason they exist is convenience. Some people just want to go on the internet and get a solution. You never have to see a doctor in person. They don't take insurance. It's a cash pay model. You give them their credit card for the medications that you get from them. And they've grown, you know, very, very large.
Sure. Let's try regrow hair.
Sure. Let's try regrow hair.
Sure. Let's try regrow hair.
They had $1.5 billion in revenue last year, and they had over 2 million customers whom they call subscribers.
They had $1.5 billion in revenue last year, and they had over 2 million customers whom they call subscribers.
They had $1.5 billion in revenue last year, and they had over 2 million customers whom they call subscribers.
It offers finasteride, which blocks DHT, a hormone that causes hair loss.
It offers finasteride, which blocks DHT, a hormone that causes hair loss.
It offers finasteride, which blocks DHT, a hormone that causes hair loss.
Yeah, I think that's the main goal here. A lot of younger men are probably insecure about their hair. Guys with hair or without hair?
Yeah, I think that's the main goal here. A lot of younger men are probably insecure about their hair. Guys with hair or without hair?
Yeah, I think that's the main goal here. A lot of younger men are probably insecure about their hair. Guys with hair or without hair?
You know, when you watch a commercial for a drug on the evening news or something, a narrator says a whole bunch of things very quickly and a whole bunch of small print goes past you on the screen. And you're supposed to, you know, know before you go and ask your doctor about this medication that there are some risks. And moreover, your doctor is trained to tell you about those risks.
You know, when you watch a commercial for a drug on the evening news or something, a narrator says a whole bunch of things very quickly and a whole bunch of small print goes past you on the screen. And you're supposed to, you know, know before you go and ask your doctor about this medication that there are some risks. And moreover, your doctor is trained to tell you about those risks.
You know, when you watch a commercial for a drug on the evening news or something, a narrator says a whole bunch of things very quickly and a whole bunch of small print goes past you on the screen. And you're supposed to, you know, know before you go and ask your doctor about this medication that there are some risks. And moreover, your doctor is trained to tell you about those risks.
So you can make an informed decision whether this medication is right for you, right? So what's interesting about telehealth companies? Well, they're not required in their advertisements to disclose side effects. So they typically don't.
So you can make an informed decision whether this medication is right for you, right? So what's interesting about telehealth companies? Well, they're not required in their advertisements to disclose side effects. So they typically don't.
So you can make an informed decision whether this medication is right for you, right? So what's interesting about telehealth companies? Well, they're not required in their advertisements to disclose side effects. So they typically don't.
They didn't include any side effect information or other risks. And two senators, one Republican, one Democrat, wrote to the FDA saying, this is a problem. These companies should be disclosing risks in their ads, and they're not.
They didn't include any side effect information or other risks. And two senators, one Republican, one Democrat, wrote to the FDA saying, this is a problem. These companies should be disclosing risks in their ads, and they're not.
They didn't include any side effect information or other risks. And two senators, one Republican, one Democrat, wrote to the FDA saying, this is a problem. These companies should be disclosing risks in their ads, and they're not.
So basically you get into a situation where a lot of men are seeing these ads on social media, on television, and clicking through to these websites that are... designed to get you through a product flow quickly without reading all of this information.
So basically you get into a situation where a lot of men are seeing these ads on social media, on television, and clicking through to these websites that are... designed to get you through a product flow quickly without reading all of this information.
So basically you get into a situation where a lot of men are seeing these ads on social media, on television, and clicking through to these websites that are... designed to get you through a product flow quickly without reading all of this information.
Then there's an option to click on safety information or side effects. If I want to click on that, I don't have to. I can just sort of continue.
Then there's an option to click on safety information or side effects. If I want to click on that, I don't have to. I can just sort of continue.
Then there's an option to click on safety information or side effects. If I want to click on that, I don't have to. I can just sort of continue.
60 seconds.
60 seconds.
60 seconds.
Well, there are a lot of men we spoke to who got some very gnarly side effects from finasteride that they got from telehealth companies. And they said they really weren't warned about the side effects.
Well, there are a lot of men we spoke to who got some very gnarly side effects from finasteride that they got from telehealth companies. And they said they really weren't warned about the side effects.
Well, there are a lot of men we spoke to who got some very gnarly side effects from finasteride that they got from telehealth companies. And they said they really weren't warned about the side effects.
For a medication that is being prescribed to millions of people, I mean, that's a lot of men out there.
For a medication that is being prescribed to millions of people, I mean, that's a lot of men out there.
For a medication that is being prescribed to millions of people, I mean, that's a lot of men out there.