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But so how does she do it?

And what does that mean exactly, letting nature tell you where you are?

So I think I understand that there are these natural features in the environment that you can use to navigate.

But how does she apply what she's seeing and hearing?

Like, how does she make practical sense of it all in terms of setting a specific course for her canoe?

I love this so much.

cool it really is so okay so you know she can see a 10 mile island as a 300 mile island um that's amazing and but i do wonder like as you know you are relying on the natural world to be your sort of navigational guide that climate changes and changes in the environment you know like could change the way she should read them and did she talk about that

I mean, you think about one species of bird that lives on an island, and if something happened to that one species, she would know the difference.

Like, it would affect her navigation potentially.

It's just sort of an amazing concept to sort of think about.

It is crazy.

It's so interesting.

Wait, and she was getting on the phone to talk to you the day before she was leaving on this four-year journey?

She was going to do one leg.

Okay, that sounds better.

Okay, that sounds good.

Yeah, yeah.

So is there a way to track where she is in the world?

That is so cool.

I'm so glad we talked about this.