Romy Croft

What is that program?

I really remember that.

And then just, we had that, burnt it on a CD and then we gave it to the sound person and said like, have to be like track three.

And it would go like one, two, three.

Eventually we said to Jamie, please, can you like help us and make some beats?

Having Jamie play the MPC live in the band was a very big turning point of the fluidity of it being live feeling, but still electronic.

It worked.

So we'd like filmed ourselves.

There was the video and then you could extract the audio.

We sort of used to share lyrics back and forth, like poems.

That I could bring paradise Those first lines of Crystallize, you know, I thought they were so visual and really unique, but then I think I sort of reacted.

Then I'm sort of, in my second verse, trying to write something that has got a similar pattern and wanted to use an interesting word like crystallizer.

There's like paralyzed and, you know, other words that are kind of bouncing off what Oliver had said.

Sort of a shared space, both individually saying our perspectives on it, but never really asking like, oh, what's that about for you necessarily?

Just reacting to each other's lyrics.

Then you could sort of like create things and then send it back and forth between each other, have that distance from each other, but the closeness.

Yeah, that autonomy to be able to make things separately was a big thing for me.

And the way Oliver and I sing together, it kind of comes from a place of like, oh, you go first, no, you go first.

So then we sing together.

It really feels like it's such a deep dive into memory to remember the creation of this song.