Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
You're listening to Song Exploder, where musicians take apart their songs and piece by piece tell the story of how they were made. I'm Rishikesh Hirway. Let me tell you about one of my favorite podcasts in the world, How Did This Get Made? It is so funny, and it is just one of the best film discussion podcasts talking about some of the very worst movies.
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Chapter 2: How did The xx form and what is their musical background?
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Check out How Did This Get Made if you love talking about or hearing about just terrible, cringeworthy movies that are so bad they're good. Check out How Did This Get Made today. The XX formed in 2005 when they were still in high school. They signed to the UK label Young and put out their first album in 2009.
It won the prestigious Mercury Prize and was named one of the best albums of the year by Rolling Stone, Pitchfork, and more. And since then, The Guardian has named it one of the best albums of the 21st century. This year, the three band members, Rami Croft, Oliver Sim, and Jamie XX, played together as the XX for the first time in eight years.
I spoke to them in between the weekends at Coachella, where they were opening their sets with the song Crystallized. It's the first song that they ever released back in April 2009, when the lineup also included Barya Qureshi on guitar. I spoke to Rami, Jamie, and Oliver here at my studio about how they first found each other and how they made Crystallized.
I'm Jamie, I'm the producer and I do all the electronic stuff on stage.
I'm Romy and I play guitar and I'm one of the songwriters and I sing.
And I'm Oliver, I play bass, I sing and I'm the other songwriter.
Oliver and I met in nursery school when we were three.
And then we met Jamie when we were 11, the first day of school.
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Chapter 3: What was the significance of their first album and its recognition?
I think when we started writing Crystallized, we only had about four songs. We were playing pub sets for about 20 to 25 minutes, and Jamie had just joined the band. I remember the very earliest demo was Romy and I playing two acoustic guitars. It was in front of the program on... Photo booth. Photo booth. The most roundabout way to go.
It worked. So we'd like filmed ourselves. There was the video and then you could extract the audio.
At that point, songs very much started as like words on a piece of paper.
We sort of used to share lyrics back and forth, like poems.
I remember my first lyric was inspired by something my mum read in a paper about how you can have your ashes compressed so hard that they turn into diamonds, which is really macabre, but that was the first lyric. You've applied the pressure to have me crystallized.
You've applied the pressure They'll be crystallized And you've got the face
That I could bring paradise Those first lines of Crystallize, you know, I thought they were so visual and really unique, but then I think I sort of reacted.
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Chapter 4: How did the band members reconnect after eight years?
Then I'm sort of, in my second verse, trying to write something that has got a similar pattern and wanted to use an interesting word like crystallizer. There's like paralyzed and, you know, other words that are kind of bouncing off what Oliver had said.
Unforgive and forget Before I'm paralyzed Do I have to keep up the pace To keep you satisfied?
mine and Romy's writing was very much like a patchwork rather than sat in the room together. But so many of the songs from the outside must really sound like we're singing together. Two parts of a love song sang at each other. You know, Romy and I being best friends and not only that, both being gay, you know, it's not directed at one another.
It was kind of making each other's perspectives kind of just hoping they would fit.
Sort of a shared space, both individually saying our perspectives on it, but never really asking like, oh, what's that about for you necessarily? Just reacting to each other's lyrics. Then you could sort of like create things and then send it back and forth between each other, have that distance from each other, but the closeness.
Yeah, that autonomy to be able to make things separately was a big thing for me. And the way Oliver and I sing together, it kind of comes from a place of like, oh, you go first, no, you go first. So then we sing together.
So don't think that I'm pushing you away When you're the one that I've kept closest
The first time I really remember was us trying to figure out what the song was and how to play it live, probably for that weekend's show. I was also trying to figure out my new toy, which was an MPC. And we plugged a microphone into it and got Oliver to sing like an ooh, just a note, just to see how it worked. And then recorded it into the machine and started messing with the pitch live.
And that became the intro of Crystallized. So that sound is still that same sound from that first day of just trying to work out Crystallized.
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Chapter 5: What inspired the creation of the song 'Crystalised'?
I really love melodic guitar. But wanting to be able to sing confidently and play the guitar, there was a simplicity to the instrumentation of it because a lot of what we wanted to put on the album was exactly what we could play live. And I wouldn't feel confident to play that full intro riff and sing. I had to move to just running single notes.
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When it came time to record this song, we'd actually done a few different versions with different producers, like our label and management had set us up on different speed dates. We'd done a version of this song with Diplo, who is the most exciting person ever to us.
I think we'd done another version with a producer called Lex, but it wasn't quite right because I think the space in the music often ended up being filled by that person's sound and their signature.
Especially because we were all so young, we didn't really know what we were doing, but it felt like we were just handed over to these different people.
We all just really loved the sound of the demos. They just had like our feeling of the live show. And we were just like, we'd hear some of the versions back and be like, oh, we just like how the demo sounded before. And then you kind of get people saying, oh, but this is, you should work with them because, you know, they've done this.
And I think we were all just quite like, oh, we don't really bother about that. We just want it to sound like us.
It was really useful to have gone through all that and hear all the different ways that things could be filled out. And I was learning a lot at the same time, but definitely the back of my head, I was like, I could do this.
We didn't think it was an option for Jamie to produce until we had worked with other people.
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Chapter 6: How did the band members meet and start collaborating?
Everything was so exciting. We had this space for free. We'd worked out how to do all these songs structurally because we played them live so much. It was the MPC stuff first so that the groove was right to record the guitars over. And I just literally played it in like I would in the band. So I was playing it live, just do the whole thing in one go.
We were all talking about rumble drums, which is a term I think we just made up. Yeah. From listening to a few different bits of music.
It's those tumbling, rumbling drums. I remember you like tapping on a table to kind of like get the idea across.
I was working out how to make electronic production feel live and feel organic. Trying to work out how to make every click, every rim sound slightly different like it would if you were just hitting a snare. So it was like painstaking.
And I play on the guitar. And then Baria plays the second guitar part. And then Oliver joins with the bass.
It's interesting to me how sparse the verses are.
There is just always a part of me that winces when I listen back to that because I almost don't recognize that person. It has an element of like finding like an old diary from being a teenager. You know, that is not how I sound today. When we recorded that, I was 18 and I'm 36 now. So I'm 18 years later.
Wow. When we were kids, their voices sounded... If you were to pitch one up or one down, they would sound exactly the same.
I like to think that we learnt to speak at a similar time. You know, we grew up together learning, so I like to think it's kind of interwoven with that, that we sing in a similar way.
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