Ronan Farrow

And I think he's grappling with the consequences.

The industry needs to grapple with the consequences, too, I think is the main case I'm making.

It's great to be here.

I'm exhausted from getting this piece out, but it's been really wonderful to see the reaction.

I think people across America are starting to really clock how the AI industry is in need of a conversation about accountability.

Well, so part of what's built into this story, Jennifer, is that Sam Altman himself founded OpenAI on a very specific promise.

He said, this is the most powerful and maybe dangerous technology in human history.

And not everybody agrees with this.

But the founders of this company and the people technically inside building this technology of artificial intelligence were sounding these alarms.

They were saying, look, there could be the science fiction scenario of a Terminator Skynet situation.

where an AI falls out of alignment with human values and it becomes advanced enough and integrated enough into our systems that it could launch nukes.

But you don't even have to go that far to be alarmed.

Already right now, we are seeing an environment where AI is powering weapons and war zones.

There's been at least one case where it seems like a drone went rogue without a human operator, where chemical weapons are being identified much, much more rapidly through this technology, where the whole economy has come to depend on a very few AI companies that are heavily leveraged up and borrowing and doing deals with each other.

Even the sunniest projections from economists

hold that in the coming years millions and millions of jobs are going to be exposed to disruption and maybe elimination from this so the stakes are real they have not gone away and the story this investigation tells is about sam altman while he was fundraising on this premise of we've got to be scared and therefore give the money to us because we're the safety guys and we're going to go slow and we're not going to be about growth we're going to stay a 501c3 uh

But that very rapidly was replaced in a pattern of him kind of saying one thing critics allege and documents show in this piece and then doing another.

And that starts right at the top with the high level direction where this company has become one of the biggest for profit companies on Earth now.

That's exactly the point.

When I spend a year and a half of my life, and my co-author on this also did the same, investigating a company like this and an individual like this, it's because it matters, this one company and this one individual.