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Ronan Farrow

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The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

That to an extraordinary extent, even on small things that are completely unnecessary to have any deception about, you know, we talk about an instance where

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

He's in an office with colleagues apparently claiming that he was like a champion competitive ping pong player.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

Altman says that this was probably a joke, but people thought it was serious enough that they were struck by the fact that then he was one of the worst ping pong players in the office.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

This is to give you an example

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

banal it is sometimes.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

And then as Andrew pointed out, it extends to people allege that he has concealed some of his financial interests, that he deceived some board members and executives about the safety testing requirements of some products.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

So it also then filtered into serious stuff.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

And I will say I've never been on a story before where something this peculiar in that it's not a bright line smoking gun, but it is so prevalent that it is almost, I'm barely being hyperbolic here, all anyone can talk about after walking out of rooms with him.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

That is...

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

an extraordinary thing and very difficult to grapple with in a piece like this.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

We try to do it with great subtlety.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

And I think this is an important sort of summary after spending a year immersed in this.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

We represent in this piece a range of perspectives.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

There are the defenders of Altman, of course, and we spoke to many of them, and they're represented in this piece.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

And amongst the critics, there's a spectrum.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

There's the people who are, you know, diehard safetyists, and they say, look, this technology may kill us all, and he is Machiavellian and sociopathic.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

There's all these extreme terms that get used by some critics, and that therefore this is truly dangerous.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

There are people in between who say this is just dysfunctional management, that even if you're purely profit motivated, an executive of a company this important can't be making conflicting representations all the time.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

I tend to feel inclined towards the analysis of Sam Altman through my own dealings with him in this story that holds, you know, it's not that Machiavellian.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

I think that he is someone who he actually grapples with this in a new and more sincere way in this piece.