Ronan Mullen

I'm sitting here very much in the producer capacity, but I'm happy to be here.

Yeah, but is that not a bit of a schoolyard retort from Nicky Butt?

Like he's telling someone else to grow up.

Not to take you off course on your timeline here, but in terms of his athletic career, this was close to peak as well.

He had this tremendous nadir at the World Cup, which would have been the 97, 98 season, which United weren't successful in.

And then he had this really famous thing with Diego Simeone and what followed and the effigies being burned and so on.

But then he went on to have, I think, his best ever season for the club.

In an era before assists were calculated, he was just racking up unbelievable stats.

And it's just why this age of, and I'm really going off course, but this age of documentaries where in the Beckham, in the David Beckham documentary, they make it seem like, geez, he was really, there was some turning point like the Inter Milan game in the second half of the season, where in actual fact, he'd been unbelievable the whole year through.

I thought there was going to be a Brooklyn name boom, but there actually wasn't.

He's in the United jersey.

He's not a nebulous OK magazine photograph.

He's actually a real thing in front of us.

Maybe... Well, it wouldn't be uncommon for the...

winning players to have their children parading around with them.

Last day of the season.

Well, until today, when I was listening to clips for the podcast, I didn't even know what he sounded like.

Oh, yes.

Okay.

So let's jump forward to where we are today.