Ronnie Karam

and he does like subtle things that make me think okay like he's sad and approachable now because he's filming himself at his kitchen table but he's like a snob in real life because he wears um rimless glasses and i think people who wear rimless glasses are truly evil people like i think they feel like they're better than everybody they are yeah especially when they like befriend octopuses and then they're like my friend's an octopus and you're like oh well i can't top that

Yeah, because he was a documentary filmmaker, and he was choosing really dangerous shit to go document.

It's like, just walk around the desert for months at a time to find out how to track a tiger or whatever.

Yeah.

Yeah, he was depressed, and I guess once he went back to the real world, he couldn't deal with an edit bay or something.

I don't know.

Those are depressing places, edit bays.

What is that adrenal failure?

Like, what does that do?

Nothing surprised me.

I mean, I did grow up in a house that flooded every five minutes.

Once you've seen your family dog be swept away to sea.

Now, that's normally the point where someone signs up for Zumba, you know?

Yeah, like I'm older, I'm slightly depressed, adrenal shit's going on.

Apparently my wife won't even be in the same room with me.

You know, I'll take a Zumba class or start walking around the neighborhood or something like that.

I'm always an advocate for board games.

Settlers of Catan.

But just like it's going to live in the ocean.

You know, that's a little extreme, Craig.