Rory Stewart

And we're going to focus also on another speech this morning by Keir Starmer, the British Prime Minister.

And I think Alistair and I are going to get into some slightly spicy disagreements

about this, about whether speeches matter and what kind of vision we need for the world.

But before that, let's just give you a bit of a feeling for the tone of the place and what's going on.

So to give a sense, we're sitting now in what basically in normal life is a shop of a hotel.

It's

the Bayerische München Hotel, and we are going in and out of weird bars and coffee shops of what was once a perfectly functioning central hotel and has now turned into a conference center.

With the sort of number of loos you'd expect in a hotel, not the number of loos you'd expect in a conference center, and the number of doors you'd expect in a hotel, not the number of doors you'd expect in a conference center.

Yeah, it's less corporate.

It's more defense and security.

Much more about defense and security.

And yet, at the same time, under the surface, this is a place to be reminded of how...

many other things are happening in the world which are not being properly reported.

I went to an event with Reza Pahlavi, the crown prince of Persia-Iran, who has been very much one of the leading figures in driving the uprisings against the government in Iran.

And then I saw him again

later in the evening, and we had another little chat.

Very interesting, because listeners probably would have heard our podcast on a run.

We were talking about Trump administration.

He says the big fight now, and actually he's just met the Venezuelan Nobel Prize winner, and what she's talking about is Machado and Petlovi are worried that what Trump's trying to do

is just get rid of Khamenei and leave the rest of the regime in place, some sort of revolutionary military government in place.