Rory Stewart
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And he's saying it's just not enough.
The people won't put up with it.
Tens of thousands of people have been killed in the streets.
There needs to be a real change.
But at the same time, the Gulf, who are also here, are terrified that what Trump will do is just enough to annoy the Iranians and provoke a response.
but not enough actually to topple the regime again.
And so there's a very complicated thing going on with the Turks, the Qataris, the Egyptians and others to try to get some sort of agreement.
And nobody knows what Trump will do.
We talked about this with Rob Malley, what he'll declare a success.
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The other thing that I picked up, which we haven't discussed much for some time, is a reminder that the Saudi-UAE relationship is disintegrating very, very fast.
UAE being Dubai, Abu Dhabi against Saudi.
That matters because those are the two really most flamboyantly wealthy, powerful figures.
Qatar's influential, but those are the two that have really been driving foreign policy.
And these two figures, Mohammed bin Salman and Mohammed bin Zayed,