Rory Stewart

I mean, destroyed within a few seconds.

Because actually what I feel like seeing the blood is it's like gladiatorial games.

What does it suggest about masculinity?

Because remember there was a story amongst the various things that haven't been delivered by Elon Musk.

He's just become the world's first trillionaire.

If people haven't followed, read the prospectus of the SpaceX IPO.

It

Basically, you're going to make money if he manages to put a million people on Mars and put all this stuff up into space.

Oh, and by the way, you're going to have no control as a shareholder.

The whole thing's written for Musk to control the whole thing.

But amongst the various promises, he's not just putting a million people on Mars.

He promised that he was going to fight Mark Zuckerberg in a ring two years ago, and we haven't yet seen that.

No, we haven't.

I've watched that.

Who do you want to win?

I think Musk would probably win, but who would you want to win?

What's going on, though, between these?

Actually, it turned out, I think, that he dropped out because he suddenly discovered that Mark Zuckerberg had literally been training two hours a day with some martial arts.

So what do you think is going on in the world?

I mean, would this have been true 20, 30 years ago?