Rory Stewart

There we go.

So that's an interesting example when we're generally very gloomy about it.

Because a lot of species are being lost.

Yeah.

And we're doing huge damage to biodiversity.

But just occasionally, humans are able to pull their socks up, concentrate, target a species and improve it.

Yeah.

Maybe the biggest ever human achievement isn't one invention or moment.

It is, as you suggested, Alistair, the way we keep moving forward together.

Because just like progress itself, I guess this is built on connection.

Millions of people taking part or contributing to something bigger.

Here's a question for you.

Jackie Muggleton, Trip Plus member.

Wiltshire, thank you, Jackie, for being a Trip Plus member.

Is it now time for Starmer to stand up to Trump to defend our BBC?

Incredibly important.

I think this is a fundamental problem for Keir Starmer, unfortunately.

I think his voice sounds strange, nerdy and strangled.

It wasn't forensic.

Well, I chaired the Defense Select Committee briefly, and I was on the Foreign Affairs Committee for four years before that.