Rory Stewart

We've talked about his net popularity rating, which is catastrophically low.

The complete absence for proper growth narrative, these incredible tactical mistakes on things like winter fuel, where he does something and U-turns and comes back.

And then we've got the whole question of a very unhappy Labour Party in Parliament.

The question is, with that backdrop...

First, is this just like a banderilla in the bull, in the Spanish ring, that it's not necessarily on its own the thing that brings him down?

Because, of course, on its own, as you've pointed out,

There's an incredible irony if Starmer was brought down by Epstein when Trump was a good friend of Epstein's and had private parties from at Mar-a-Lago and all this.

And Starmer, as far as one knows, never met Epstein.

So that would be very odd.

But the only reason one could understand it is in the context of all the other mishaps and this just being the final thing

So I don't know.

And I think because it's quite difficult getting rid of a Labour leader.

I mean, you said it's about the MPs in the cabinet.

Of course it is.

But we also saw with Jeremy Corbyn that that wasn't enough to get rid of him, even when the majority of MPs turned against him.

If the leader wants to just dig their heels in and stay, they can.

It comes down to the very odd question of psychology.

I mean, in the end, Liz Truss chose to resign.

Boris Johnson, Theresa May, they chose to go.

Now, in Johnson's case, it had become catastrophic because the whole cabinet basically was right.