Rory Stewart

This is what the DOD says, and we parrot that line, and Starmer's parroting that line.

They're much more radical now.

They're not serious about the NATO alliance.

They're not serious about helping us against Russia.

They're not serious about helping us rearm.

America isn't serious about getting European defense industries off the ground.

They're not serious about helping us with satellite Ukraine.

It's bullshit.

This is –

A spin from the DoD to justify Greenland cuts, aid cuts, betrayal to Putin, betrayal on Ukraine.

How come Carney can say it and Mertz can say it?

I don't think Mertz did say that.

He's much, much closer to it than Starmer.

Is that why you're defending it?

No, I agree with you.

He should not be talking like a podcaster.

He shouldn't be doing his love actually moment.

But I think that Carney and Macron certainly...

And even Mertz have demonstrated and Stubb was demonstrating how you can do this without blowing up the transnational.

And you need to because there's a big strategic call that Starmer needs to make now, which I'm afraid he's fluffing.