Rory Stewart

Joe Wolf, who's a TripPlus member from London, with the sheer scale of addiction we see worldwide, a billion obese people, a billion smokers, 400 million alcoholics, according to international organizations,

Social media, etc.

Why do we not see addiction as an infringement on individual freedom when getting customers addicted is the intended outcome of these industries?

Yeah.

Just on the royalty point very quickly before we get back to addiction, I think it's really good what the Princess Wells has been doing.

She's been doing stuff on addiction in general.

She's also specifically been talking about trying to encourage people not to use phones at mealtimes and stuff.

But it also requires a public that is receptive to that, because if it went wrong, of course, you would get people saying, how dare

the royal family tell me whether or not I should use the phone at a meal time, what do they understand about my life?

So it shows that she has, at the moment, enough goodwill and legitimacy to be able to lead these campaigns.

And you did a very powerful one, which I watched, which we'll put in the newsletter as a link.

Tell us a little bit about it.

Remind us the conversation.

Why is it so powerful for him to do it through these very gentle questions?

What would your emotional reaction have been if he'd been more explicit from the beginning in saying, this has been done by alcohol?

He hadn't put the two together.

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One final thing before we go.

When I was an MP, it used to be a tradition, certainly in my constituency, to have an annual Christmas card competition.

Absolutely.