Rory Stewart

with AI, we need to be much closer to the people right on our borders, which is the European Union.

In other words, a whole security argument has emerged that has wrecked global Britain.

On the other side, we had Remain.

Remain had its fair share of pretty extreme apocalyptic predictions, some of which didn't come true.

Total collapse of the city of London, World War III, total inability for Britain to survive.

Actually, the reality, and this is what I want to provoke you with,

is damaging, underwhelming, slow decline, maybe 3%, maybe 8%.

So it was neither the heroic, certainly not the heroic future of the Brexit years, nor was it quite the complete extreme catastrophe of the total breakup of the European Union, the collapse of our financial sector, et cetera, that some on the Remain side predicted.

Oh, very good.

So still firing on all cylinders.

He's amazing.

Of course he did.

And yet, very interestingly, as you keep pointing out...

Farage is actually not very damaged.

This is all so weird.

So he remains very popular.

Popular.

I would delete the very and say quite with some people.

More popular than most of the other leaders, given what he delivered.

I mean, given all that.