Rory Stewart

I mean, I agree with you on all of that.

And there is still a sort of fondness for Boris Johnson out there in the country that you sometimes encounter.

People think he's funny.

Yeah.

Yeah, I found it on the train on my way up to Cumbria.

And Dominic Cummings, I was talking to someone yesterday, absolutely on our side, but the cliche with Dominic Cummings, they repeat again and again, is he may be a bit radical, but my goodness, he's right about a lot of things.

And the general, he's managed to reposition himself.

It's this kind of profit on technology, defense, the civil service, et cetera.

Michael Gove, you just mentioned, he did a whole podcast, Laying Into Us, in which basically the thesis of the podcast is, why is Dominic Cummings more right than we are about things?

The story was because Dominic Cummings is such a brilliant historian and so much cleverer than we are, et cetera.

Actually, it wasn't so much clever.

It's because he has a different form of intellectual education.

Oddly, at no point does anyone say, wait a second, if Dominic Cummings

is such an amazing prophet and a genius, why did he decide to lead us into Brexit and inflict all this damage on us?

Why is he not judged by that one big scrub?

Why is Michael Gove not?

Why is Boris Johnson not?

But instead he came up with something else.

He decided he'd instead, he'd send his donors to go and live somewhere else.

And then he could get them in time.