Rory Stewart
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I mean, obviously, for Putin and Xi Jinping, this is a dream, right?
Particularly for Putin, because his oil price was in the toilet.
Yeah, yeah.
No, it's absolutely brilliant.
Sanctions are being lifted.
His revenue is going up.
Russia's getting richer.
All the missiles that could be fired at him.
Being fired at Iran.
Right.
And he gets to play every which way.
He can be like, this is what you should do.
And meanwhile, under the table, Putin can screw him over.
Exactly.
Yeah.
It's such a sign of desperation and weakness, though.
Churchill did point to this, the example before the war.
were some of his colleagues absolutely desperate to try to get Mussolini's advice on how to deal with Hitler and hoping that if they were nice to Mussolini in Abyssinia, he'd somehow help them against Hitler.
And Churchill was saying consistently, you're out of your mind.
It doesn't work like that.