Rory Stewart

ideological conditioning and two-tiered policing are glaring symptoms of civilizational decline.

They must be rejected across the West.

America always has a greater impact.

The reason I'm punching this a little bit is one of the things that troubles me

about the direction the Conservative Party's gone is how reluctant people are to call this out.

Oh, that's nonsense.

I was about to use a different word.

I've criticised

Well, at the moment, you're very much on the one hand, on the other.

What about this?

When I read you these things, what you're saying is... I disagree with that.

And it's not that the Labour front bench is doing this against the Americans, right?

This is not what our foreign secretary, our foreign office, our deputy prime minister is doing, right?

It may be backbenchers are doing it.

We're much more tolerant of US senators, congressmen, stuff that Vance said before he was elected.

It's when you've got the weight of office with you and you start doing this.

So, I mean, James, we're talking at a time when however you spin it,

Labour and Tories are in a catastrophic situation historically.

There's literally not been a time in the last 200 years where the two major parties have been so low on the pulse.

I was talking to an MP from East Sussex who pointed out that they'd gone from, I think, 23 councillors on the council, Tory councillors, to zero.