Rory Stewart

So number one, is it ahead of anyone else?

Yes, for my money, I think it's ahead of everyone else.

But there are some people who will say that actually putting other models together, you can achieve pretty similar performance.

Secondly, is it about the genuine threat or is it bitterness towards Anthropic?

With the Trump administration, it's completely impossible to distinguish.

There's a lot of evidence that quite a lot of it is bitterness towards Anthropic because Pete Hegseth has been cheerfully saying, we told you this was a bad company and this is why we've just stopped the export of the product.

Anthropic are like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Can you please tell us what the grounds are for you stopping our product?

So that we can assess what's different between our product and our competitors.

Or are you just trying to kill our business model?

It also removes...

a lot of the very smartest AI researchers in the world.

If you look through the great heads of all these tech companies, they're absolutely full of

people who are South Asian or of Iranian heritage or Chinese heritage.

There are over 100 first languages in anthropology.

Yeah.

When I turn up to these conferences in the States, the guy presenting on Quantum has a strong German accent.

The guy telling me about his new legal program is obviously a recent South Asian immigrant.

America has built Silicon Valley off immigrants.

It's an immigrant culture.