Rose Shocker

He had so many hot takes. And I feel like this episode is going to be so great for the boots on the ground marketers. I feel like they're going to be rejoicing when they listen to it. Because having just this expectation of volume over your head and no clear through line is no clear data, just produce, produce, produce is a recipe for burnout and high turnover.

He had so many hot takes. And I feel like this episode is going to be so great for the boots on the ground marketers. I feel like they're going to be rejoicing when they listen to it. Because having just this expectation of volume over your head and no clear through line is no clear data, just produce, produce, produce is a recipe for burnout and high turnover.

He had so many hot takes. And I feel like this episode is going to be so great for the boots on the ground marketers. I feel like they're going to be rejoicing when they listen to it. Because having just this expectation of volume over your head and no clear through line is no clear data, just produce, produce, produce is a recipe for burnout and high turnover.

I feel like everything he was saying is just things people need to hear right now. Not only is customer experience embedded into every stage of the customer journey, but marketing's a huge part of customer experience. And as someone who's worked in marketing, I've never thought of it that way.

I feel like everything he was saying is just things people need to hear right now. Not only is customer experience embedded into every stage of the customer journey, but marketing's a huge part of customer experience. And as someone who's worked in marketing, I've never thought of it that way.

I feel like everything he was saying is just things people need to hear right now. Not only is customer experience embedded into every stage of the customer journey, but marketing's a huge part of customer experience. And as someone who's worked in marketing, I've never thought of it that way.

You mentioned doing some research on Cisco and you found some cool things. Tell me about that.

You mentioned doing some research on Cisco and you found some cool things. Tell me about that.

You mentioned doing some research on Cisco and you found some cool things. Tell me about that.

80%.

80%.

80%.

Can I ask a question about that?

Can I ask a question about that?

Can I ask a question about that?

Wouldn't you say with like a lot like high volume content marketing gives you more of an opportunity to illustrate your brand's personality and your values kind of broadly? Like, is that?

Wouldn't you say with like a lot like high volume content marketing gives you more of an opportunity to illustrate your brand's personality and your values kind of broadly? Like, is that?

Wouldn't you say with like a lot like high volume content marketing gives you more of an opportunity to illustrate your brand's personality and your values kind of broadly? Like, is that?

Sure. I mean, I mean, you're getting more that you're competing with all these other companies that are just I mean, you are throwing spaghetti at the wall and seeing what sticks. But there's so much out there all the time. So I could see the argument for what we need to we need to compete and have some edge and illustrate what are our values, what our personality is.

Sure. I mean, I mean, you're getting more that you're competing with all these other companies that are just I mean, you are throwing spaghetti at the wall and seeing what sticks. But there's so much out there all the time. So I could see the argument for what we need to we need to compete and have some edge and illustrate what are our values, what our personality is.