Ross Atkins

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think...

It's just a different language now.

So, you know, 20 years ago it was just, you know, looking through comparable trades that have happened in the past and trying to sync them up based on industry takes on players and saying, okay, these guys are kind of top 20 talent and we're getting two of them for this asset.

And, you know, now...

The projections are much more nuanced, and there's public information, there's internal information, and quite frankly, it is pretty efficient because it's pretty similar.

You're going to...

I think trades happen when there is misalignment, actually.

When there's alignment in value, there's more holding.

But if, for whatever reason, you're valuing a certain acquisition more than the other team, then there's a higher likelihood of that happening.

That gap is seemingly happening less because the industry is looking at a lot of similar things.

And

Now we've got to find the next opportunity, and there are teams that are better than that than others, and making sure that you're not hanging your hat too heavily on, I've got to have evidence to make this move.

You've got to be willing to take some risk in today's game.

Yeah.

I mean, they don't really happen.

I think Arise is the Adamus, maybe late May, about four or five years ago for Rasmussen and FireEisen, like that.

Trevor Richards was actually in that trade, but...

They don't happen, and I think it's because a couple things.