Ross Atkins

So if we had the magic formula to tell you that Trey Savage was going to be able to handle this when we acquired him, we probably would have had a lot more success prior to today.

There's just, you know, you just don't, you never know.

And it's a very, the hardest thing

to evaluate, in my opinion.

So you evaluate process and work, preparation, how they deal with failure, but handling an environment like he's handled, the way he has, I don't think anyone can determine.

Yeah, I mean, there's an open-minded nature.

Andrew has also kept a lot of staff members around.

There is a commitment to his people, and that obviously starts with their ownership.

And they have continued to build upon really good resources.

And those are all things I would say the Blue Jays are trying to do as well.

I do think that continuity is exceptionally powerful for organizations like Cleveland, like Milwaukee, like Tampa.

Even when a leader is lost, they're usually building from within so that you can build upon the good decision-making tools that you have.

You can build upon the values that you have.

And it's the big changes where it gets hard to repeat success.

Yeah, varied.

It was something we felt played in the playoffs against really good pitching.

Discussion turns into research and research turns into decisions.

How many years ago?

Four, probably five.

I mean, I can't say enough about Alejandro and to say how important, you know, it's incredible.