Ross Coulthart

And the default explanation is, oh, it must be the Russians.

But nobody's got a jot of evidence to prove it.

And I'd be very happy if it did turn out to be the Russians because, frankly, we then know what we're up against because it would mean that the Russians have developed advanced technology which has no visible means of propulsion, which is capable of stealth because sometimes these objects have quite literally deflated.

disappeared from not only radar, but from video and the naked eye.

Whatever they are, they're capable of quite extraordinary maneuvers.

And there are some people who are suggesting that they are, in fact, anomalous.

Now, in the case of the Northern Territory, it's thousands of kilometers from anywhere, Raf Tindall.

If it was the Chinese, they'd be very conspicuous in a camper van or a car.

It's why we located Pine Gap where we did.

Because we knew that if there was a Chinese or Russian spy in a camper van deploying with a camera from the McDonald Rangers to try and see what's going on at Pine Gap, we'd soon catch them.

Now, the interesting thing is it's not talked about inside our military, not because we know what's going on.

But because I think it's the worst kind of type A mentality, we just don't like admitting.

We have no bloody idea what this is.

And I'm talking to people inside our military and our intelligence community who admit that there are regularly infractions, breaches of the airspace over sensitive military facilities.

Recently, there was one over Richmond in Sydney.

There was an object, let's call it an object, I won't call it a drone, that sat there and hovered for over an hour and a half.

It was recorded, it was reported to the relevant authorities, but they couldn't do anything to bring it down.

These events are happening all the time, all over the world, and not just in the Western world, not just countries of the Western Alliance.

It's been happening in Russia, and it's been happening in China as well.

I suspect something non-human is making a show.